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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AP1Chief
So am I missing something?

525 (F285) pump is 90GPH at 90psi
This new brushless system is 105GPH at 90.... so 10-15 more gph….. which is fine... but we talking 15-20hp of fuel

I'm also comparing these around 6bar being most guys trying to run 900-1000hp are in the 40psi range.

SOO lets takes someone aiming for 1000+.... this system wont come even CLOSE... but a dual 285 setup.... will DEF get your there.

With a combined flow of 180GPH (685L) We talking able to flow enough for 1300hp ON ETHONAL at 6 Bar....

I didn't really compare prices.... but Dual 525s VS this pump is NO comparison... Unless i'm missing something lol
I really don't want to deal with 2 pumps and a hanger that is guaranteed to leak when I can use one pump that will flow as much or more. The dual stage controller will be a nice bonus. With this brushless pump, I have the ability to expand and increase fuel flow in the future, either with a voltage booster, or by swapping to a different controller all together. The ID controller looks really badass, but I'm going to guess it will be very very expensive too.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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The Holley VR1 kit showed up today. Once I get the Walbro 450 out of my tank I'll take pics comparing the TI brushless pump, 450, and stock pump all next to each other.


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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AP1Chief
So am I missing something?

525 (F285) pump is 90GPH at 90psi
This new brushless system is 105GPH at 90.... so 10-15 more gph….. which is fine... but we talking 15-20hp of fuel
That number is at 12vdc. The advantage of the holley pump comes in when you up the voltage to 18vdc...I don't know what the duty cycle would be like at that voltage, but they advertise their numbers with that so im assuming it's 100%
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by treimche
I really don't want to deal with 2 pumps and a hanger that is guaranteed to leak when I can use one pump that will flow as much or more. The dual stage controller will be a nice bonus. With this brushless pump, I have the ability to expand and increase fuel flow in the future, either with a voltage booster, or by swapping to a different controller all together. The ID controller looks really badass, but I'm going to guess it will be very very expensive too.
A hanger that is guaranteed to leak? I have that hanger and I can tell you this thing wont be leaking any time soon lol. However, that stock plastic hanger you are about to drill to make work with that brushless pump....that is questionable.


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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Charper732
A hanger that is guaranteed to leak? I have that hanger and I can tell you this thing wont be leaking any time soon lol. However, that stock plastic hanger you are about to drill to make work with that brushless pump....that is questionable.

Meaning the Full Blown hanger that everyone complains about how they leak. The CJM hanger, according to CJM themselves, won't fit dual 525s, and I don't have the resources to fabricate a spacer to mount them to their hanger, nor should I have to if I'm spending that much on a fuel pump hanger. So, neither or those are options for my wants and needs.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 08:23 AM
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You can run 18V from the controller? Or needs more electronics?

I've yet to have a single issue with my dual full blown hanger.

AND if I REALLY wanted to, I could throw a BAP on the 525s and get a hell of a lot more flow my self
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AP1Chief
You can run 18V from the controller? Or needs more electronics?

I've yet to have a single issue with my dual full blown hanger.

AND if I REALLY wanted to, I could throw a BAP on the 525s and get a hell of a lot more flow my self
I'm not 100%, but pretty sure you'd have to run a BAP to reach the 18vdc.

If only ID would release their stuff.
If Stu would stop hogging all the good shit to himself maybe we could get on his level....Puff Puff Pass, bro. lol
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 05:28 PM
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Yeah I believe another device will be required in order to run the pump at 18v like a Boost A Pump.

Here's a comparison pic from left to right: stock pump, TI brushless pump, Walbro 450. One thing I don't understand with the TI brushless pump is that it just has a 3/8" barb outlet when the selection chart and instructions say that it is supposed to have a -10an inlet and outlet. Not sure what the deal is there.


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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Charper732
I'm not 100%, but pretty sure you'd have to run a BAP to reach the 18vdc.

If only ID would release their stuff.
If Stu would stop hogging all the good shit to himself maybe we could get on his level....Puff Puff Pass, bro. lol
I promise I want it out, but we aren’t willing to release a product until we are 100% confident in it. We have identified a couple things we aren’t happy with on my car.
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Old Apr 25, 2020 | 09:06 PM
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Dual 525s... 37lbs on a 72mm today making 950+ on a auto... 83% duty 93PSI@ the pumps, and still going!
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