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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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*phew*

Crisis averted, problem solved.

After I did the valve adjustment, I mistakenly put the pcv line going to my catch can over the top of vacuum line going to the FPR. Here's a pic to show what I'm talking about:



Its fixed in this pic, but imagine the PCV line directly on top of that line and that's how it was. That PCV line is very beefy. It pinched the vacuum line on the FPR and wasn't allowing it to see full vacuum, which in turn threw off the tune.

I turned closed loop back on and its working spendidly. Our winter temps just kicked in recently down here in FL so its going to take some cycles to get my trims right to eliminate the remaining small amounts of knock (which is very very little).

Watch those vacuum lines and pay attention to knock your knock count fellas. Had I not been attentive to my tunerview when I got off the dyno who knows what might have happened had I kept driving it the way it was.

Special thanks to Mase for the phone support
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Happy to hear the good news D! NEVER, EVER would have thought about that for at least a week or three!

Time for a fuel pressure guage...

J
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spectacle,Dec 3 2009, 09:43 AM
Not partial throttle boost. I'm talking just taking off from a stoplight type of load. AFR's are supposed to richen up to a certain point, instead they are leaning out way too much which I'm sure is the cause of the knock.

I'm not doing pulls and pulling plugs. I don't have the time nor the patience to find open road to tell me what I already know - the motor is predetonating. I've verified its not the tune. Nothing has changed in the map or kpro since before the dyno besides what I stated initially.
I still don't see a problem with AFR's in the 15's or slightly higher for barely any load on the engine.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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[QUOTE=m R g S r,Dec 3 2009, 11:28 PM] I still don't see a problem with AFR's in the 15's or slightly higher for barely any load on the engine.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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gotchyaa. at least you got it worked out!
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by spectacle,Dec 3 2009, 09:43 AM
Not partial throttle boost. I'm talking just taking off from a stoplight type of load. AFR's are supposed to richen up to a certain point, instead they are leaning out way too much which I'm sure is the cause of the knock.

I'm not doing pulls and pulling plugs. I don't have the time nor the patience to find open road to tell me what I already know - the motor is predetonating. I've verified its not the tune. Nothing has changed in the map or kpro since before the dyno besides what I stated initially.
What is predetonation? You are probably talking about preignition which is not the same as detonation.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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No i'm not. Preignition is when the spark is ignited by something other than a spark plug
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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So you were just talking about detonation then?
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Yes. My use of 'pre' was probably a bad choice of wording.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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I gotcha. Yea i've been in situations where cars blew off the fpr line and it sure is scary when they lean out all of a sudden :/
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