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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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I don't think you can use the OEM retainers with any aftermarket springs but maybe someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Yes you can, really though you should retainers made for the springs they designed em for. Otherwise they shift around a little and cause premature wear.

Honestly there's nothing wrong with titanium retainers, they wear a slightly faster but so what, it's a predictable service limit that you can plan for and it's a very easy part to change. Cheap and easy! If you get dual valve springs absolutely go with titanium retainers!
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The N/A Way
Originally Posted by Kyushin' timestamp='1327432811' post='21348030
Should I stick with the AP2 retainers, I dont want to mess with the Titanium ones.
Can anybody advise if this is possible?
get steel retainers and be done with it http://www.briancrower.com/makes/hon...lvetrain.shtml boom!
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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^ Why are you pushing steel retainers though?

If any engine needs titanium it's the F20/22c. The rpm is sky high, certainly titanium provides a safer limit before floating a valve, why give up that safety net for slightly more wear?
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 05TurboS2k
^ Why are you pushing steel retainers though?

If any engine needs titanium it's the F20/22c. The rpm is sky high, certainly titanium provides a safer limit before floating a valve, why give up that safety net for slightly more wear?
bc they dont wear out like titanium ones.. no you cant go as high a RPM as titanium but BUT dont have to worrie about them cracking
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 06:08 AM
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not going high RPM with a built s2000 head makes absolutely no sense.. thats where these things shine
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Leviisbigred
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^ Why are you pushing steel retainers though?

If any engine needs titanium it's the F20/22c. The rpm is sky high, certainly titanium provides a safer limit before floating a valve, why give up that safety net for slightly more wear?
bc they dont wear out like titanium ones.. no you cant go as high a RPM as titanium but BUT dont have to worrie about them cracking

You don't have to worry about the titanium ones cracking either. You just have to replace them periodically because titanium is softer than steel that's all. It's not like it's a huge job or anything. It's pretty easy to do. I'd understand if you had to tear the whole motor down or something. IDK. I guess I just like the safety margin they provide.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey Maurer
not going high RPM with a built s2000 head makes absolutely no sense.. thats where these things shine
Well, I agree except if you're boosted you should avoid high RPMs because high rpm is more damaging than adding boost. Though having a built head and then limiting it by using steel retainers seems silly to me.....

My head is good to 10,000rpm on my F22c but I'll redline it at 9000 with a limiter but generally shift at 8500, the extra 500rpm will be used if I have to have it to avoid shifting gears in the middle of a corner or something but I'll avoid it as much as possible. The last 1000rpm past that will be for safety margin only. Chances are I could survive a misshift (mechanical over-rev) where others couldn't. Could happen...
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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TI does not wear at all if the retainer fits the spring properly.
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wadzii
TI does not wear at all if the retainer fits the spring properly.

This is the issue I have been trying to get the most straight answer on, so many mixed reviews and opinions with galling and longevity.
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