Going FI this month - given this scenario
Originally Posted by passmans2kny,Sep 8 2006, 12:23 PM
if u have an ap2 its def the cdv, clutch delay vavle
We seen to have taken one scenario here and morphed it into a completely different scenario.
Around 450rwhp, i would say the competition clutch 4 puck setup for the s2000. For daily driving, its a great setup.
Be aware of the heavy duty pressure plate from ACT, as they do cause crank walk from hard driving/shifting.
Be aware of the heavy duty pressure plate from ACT, as they do cause crank walk from hard driving/shifting.
Originally Posted by xviper,Sep 8 2006, 12:23 PM
He doesn't. And even if he does, the symptoms he describes is completely opposite of what happens with a CDV. The CDV makes the clutch slip, thus causing the revs to climb disporportionately to the road speed. His rpm "hangs" low momentarily. His clutch is NOT slipping by his description.
We seen to have taken one scenario here and morphed it into a completely different scenario.
We seen to have taken one scenario here and morphed it into a completely different scenario.

Originally Posted by ya@inlinepro,Sep 8 2006, 01:31 PM
Around 450rwhp, i would say the competition clutch 4 puck setup for the s2000. For daily driving, its a great setup.
Be aware of the heavy duty pressure plate from ACT, as they do cause crank walk from hard driving/shifting.
Be aware of the heavy duty pressure plate from ACT, as they do cause crank walk from hard driving/shifting.
Also, ACT HD PP have been in use on S2000s for many years and this is the first I've heard of this situation. I don't mean to offend, but is this a "one time" incident which you are stating as a generalization? Or are you simply trying to push the product you sell? On the same token, I've read here that any "puck type" clutches are the LAST thing you want on a street and daily driven S2000.
Sorry but it all sounds like "sales talk".
Sorry for the confusion all. I have an AP1, CTSC w/AC, stock comptech ESM, and running close to 7psi. I had made the mistake of assuming from the beginning it was a clutch slip.
When Xviper had pointed out that if my clutch really was slipping, my rpm's would shoot up but would not translate into the car accelerating faster.
Although my understanding of how the MAP sensor works is rather limited, it makes a lot of sense. I've checked the harness connections, and they appear to be fine. So when I have sometime this weekend, I'll take a look at the wiring of the piggyback and see if perhaps some soldered connections came loose.
When Xviper had pointed out that if my clutch really was slipping, my rpm's would shoot up but would not translate into the car accelerating faster.
Although my understanding of how the MAP sensor works is rather limited, it makes a lot of sense. I've checked the harness connections, and they appear to be fine. So when I have sometime this weekend, I'll take a look at the wiring of the piggyback and see if perhaps some soldered connections came loose.
Originally Posted by batikan,Sep 7 2006, 10:56 AM
I say get the Ironman Kit from Competition Clutches
I'm hopefully looking for numbers somewhere near the range in your sig. I'll report back when it's all done.
Originally Posted by xviper,Sep 8 2006, 04:13 PM
There are so few S2000s with this kind of power. I can think of maybe 1 (Sideways). Not sure why you would bring this up.
Also, ACT HD PP have been in use on S2000s for many years and this is the first I've heard of this situation.
Also, ACT HD PP have been in use on S2000s for many years and this is the first I've heard of this situation.
I wouldn't second guess the expertise of a shop that houses some of the fastest street-driven Hondas on Earth.
Originally Posted by s2krazy01,Sep 8 2006, 10:00 PM
I wouldn't second guess the expertise of a shop that houses some of the fastest street-driven Hondas on Earth.
Actually, I'm not guessing at all (let alone "second guessing"). I'm using the past experience of those who have posted on this board for many years.
That experience tells me that very few examples of S2000s have been reported pushing that kind of HP.
That experience tells me that just because an individual or company that has immense knowledge and experience in other cars and even other Hondas, have little experience with S2000s.
That experience tells me that ACT HD PP have worked immensely well in S2000s, without the issue that was cited.
That experience tells me that the "puck" type of clutch disc has, in most cases, have been reported as being untenable for daily driven street use.
Furthermore, I (and many others on this board) take some exception to a business (sponsor or not) slamming a product that he doesn't sell in the process of promoting his own. Very bad form.
It's great that they came on this thread to add to the options for Raymo and I'm sure he appreciates it. But let's not get into the typical car salesmen tactic of calling all other products "deficient in some way" to make your own look better.
Originally Posted by xviper,Sep 9 2006, 12:23 AM
That is your prerogative.
As I said before, he's talking of the extreme duty PP, not the heavy duty. I'm sure a company who builds a custom motor and turbo for, not to mention building the fastest S2000 on record, knows a little something about the car. I'll tell you this from experience, having been to the shop and seen their work (including S2000s), these guys know exactly what they're talking about. You can see their work too if you visit their website.
I don't know what you have against Inline, but attacking anyone for stating a brief opinion is bad form.


