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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RAIN H8R,May 31 2010, 11:55 AM
woah, why so much?! The kit is 400 plus shipping (without the pump).
If I remember correctly, it was $300+ just for the upgraded pump which at the time, they told me I needed if I bought the larger head exchanger kit.

So the cost of the kit + painting it black, + pump + shipping was close to 1K in price.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by camuman,Jun 1 2010, 08:19 AM
another idea, which you mentioned, was adding capacity to the system, perfect add on is a stock 03-04 coolant reservoir that you can pick up for 30 bucks used.

its to the left of the battery



i added this over a year ago. works well and made it very easy for me to bleed my setup.
Thats an 03-04 S2000 piece? I thought I remembered you posting this a while back and it was a stock piece for a different model car. A ford or something?
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RAIN H8R,May 31 2010, 11:52 AM

I have posted this before.....

It is critical that the pump in your kit be directly before the after cooler to maximize water flow thought the after cooler.
The digram above is wrong!!!!

Front mount heat exchanger > Pump> after cooler> Front mount heat exchanger

Also critical is to run the heat exchanger in a counter flow exchanger setup.

AKA the coldest water (from the pump) need to be closest to the air flow outlet of the heat exchanger. This creates a counter flow heat exchanger which will result in greater heat absorption/rejection then a parallel flow exchanger.

The counter flow design and having the pump push the water directly in to the heat exchanger results in a (Technical term) larger “log mean temperature difference”.
This will maximized the amount of heat/energy the after cooler section can absorb and carry to the front mount heat exchanger.


Even then there is still a limit on the amount of energy the HX can remove from the air stream. Even if you had a pump that ran 1000gal a minute the surface area of the exchanger is a limiting factor.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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water pump used with the SOT kit

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-8501-L54


Bosch pump 0 392 022 002
Volumetric flow rate 1200 dm^3 per hr
Delivery pressure .3Bar

Converting the flow rate = 317 Gal per hr

Detailed specification
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/images/prod...-0392022002.pdf
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by vader1,Jun 1 2010, 11:49 AM
Thats an 03-04 S2000 piece? I thought I remembered you posting this a while back and it was a stock piece for a different model car. A ford or something?
i just fixed it. 03-04 mustang cobra oem coolant reservoir for there A2W cooler setup. adds capacity to the system and makes it easy as shit to bleed the sot kit.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Good info in this thread. Subscribing for future reference. Thanks MugenRio (Mike, I think?)!
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CourageOO7,Jun 1 2010, 12:03 PM
Good info in this thread. Subscribing for future reference. Thanks MugenRio (Mike, I think?)!
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Its actually Mark

I get called Mike all the time
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MugenRioS2k,Jun 1 2010, 01:43 PM
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Its actually Mark

I get called Mike all the time
eh...You say Tomato, I say TomAHto. hehe...sorry.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Wow, you guy did all the work for me I called SOS, awaiting a call from Chris about how much the pump will cost. However the link that was listed, for the Johnson pump, I am pretty sure that is the one!
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MugenRioS2k,Jun 1 2010, 11:12 AM
Also critical is to run the heat exchanger in a counter flow exchanger setup.

AKA the coldest water (from the pump) need to be closest to the air flow outlet of the heat exchanger. This creates a counter flow heat exchanger which will result in greater heat absorption/rejection then a parallel flow exchanger.
You kinda lost me at hello, haha just kidding.

Basically, you want the top portion of the heat exchanger to be the inlet, and the outlet of the heat exchanger to be the bottom portion. From there it goes to the pump, and from the pump to the aftercooler. Doing it this way benefits the system because gravity can help the water flow, plus you have maximum pressure from the pump forcing water through the aftercooler.
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