exactly brainwo!!! DBW is the major reason for motec. now trying to find an actual price on the unit has been near impossible.

 

I know that in Arizona, in order to pass the OBDII test, the ecu needs to log about 125 miles of data. I tried resetting mine in my prior car and going to get the scan and I failed because it did not have enough data.

 

motecs catalog now has prices in it just download that... AEM's "traction control" is a joke, there is really no comparing a motec to an AEM or K-Pro... there is a damn good reason its twice the price, with a motec you potential is virtually unlimited (you dream it up ill program it) most people spend thousands of dollars on their motors, turbos, etc and cheap out on the most important part. I will have an M800 installed on my car long before a turbo

 

the F-con Vpro works with DBW too, but no one make a harness for the MY 06+ s2000's so far.


here is for the Motec
http://www.motec.com/definitions.htm#Drive...0Wire%20control

 

I guess that's why almost every S out there is using the AEM.

Using the VSS to progressively setup your boost is one of the best ways to have good traction or "traction control", so I have no clue what you are talking about.

 

Motec is not plug and play. Plan on replacing sensors, it can be done, but the AEM is the best option for non-DBW cars. Hondata is the way to go for DBW cars.

The Hondata for non-DBW is preferable to the AEM EMS due to the OBD2 feature, though it is not plug and play.

 

what all would you have to add to get the Motec to work?

 

M400 should able to reuse all sensor from honda. You should call up motec see if they make m400 kit for your s2k.

http://www.motec.com/products/kits/hondakit.htm

Call for details

Expect to pay $4000+

 

you cant be serious the reason almost every S (and most other cars) use AEM is because it's cheap and its P&P not to mention motecs boost control can be based on the vss, or wheel spin, or throttle positon... or even all of the above (unlike AEM)

using the vss to progressively control your boost is an AID to traction control... real traction control is based of wheel speed sensors and ground speed sensors and can be made to work in any condition unlike AEM's traction control which is based on engine acceleration rate which can work OK in drag setups but thats about it.

most people are perfectly fine with the AEM and don't even use it to its full potential because they don't want to pay someone to set it up properly or they don't understand how important the ecu can be.

... heres a list of a few things the motec can do that AEM cannot:

drive a peak and hold injector without a seperate box
4 axis ign mapping
4 axis fuel mapping
3d individual cylinder compensation (timing AND fuel)
user definable axis on almost every graph
dbw control
track mapping
video analysis

i could go on forever, virtually every control strategy and function in the motec is hands down better than AEM in every way

 

I don't see paying $2000 + for things you don't need unless you're making a true trailer queened all out drag car. What's the point? You just said that most everyone with an AEM don't even use all the features of it. So, why pay a lot more for even more features you will never use? That makes no sense at all.

People should just stick with what works and as far as I know, the AEM works just great with our cars. I love mine and have not had one problem and even with close to 600 whp, I don't have traction issues at all thanks to the progressive boost on it.

Christ........Even John Lee at Inline-Pro uses it on his S along with many other fairly big companies that deal in boosting the S.