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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 03:26 AM
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well I think my only option know is to tow the car to the storage and stack some money and change the engine , can I download the map from aem and send it like evans tunning just to check it out ?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 05:17 AM
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I got a deal on a ap2 engine , should I swap this one ? better ? stronger ?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 06:53 AM
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I would have someone check on your tune, and data logs if you were able to capture any. That sounds very weird that you blew compression in all 4 cylinders. Does the engine even try and turn over?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Janus00
I would have someone check on your tune, and data logs if you were able to capture any. That sounds very weird that you blew compression in all 4 cylinders. Does the engine even try and turn over?
im gonna download the map and send it to a good reputable shop in the Usa if its possible , for the engine idk what to do , I don't wanna pay somebody to open ot and cost me 500$ just to telm me its deam , 99% of chance wwhen you got low compression its because the engine is dead
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by beaudin223
I got a deal on a ap2 engine , should I swap this one ? better ? stronger ?
Once you go ap2 you never go back. Its ready to run, no messing with updated banjo bolts or valve retainers. Better block machining with deck plate from factory, improved piston design, better all around motor that doesn't have the typical f20 oil usage. And the improvement in low/mid range trq is noticeable benefit. F20 are cool from a nostalgic standpoint and that's about it. Just make sure its a MY 04/05 version.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by beaudin223
Originally Posted by Janus00' timestamp='1466607182' post='23999521
I would have someone check on your tune, and data logs if you were able to capture any. That sounds very weird that you blew compression in all 4 cylinders. Does the engine even try and turn over?
im gonna download the map and send it to a good reputable shop in the Usa if its possible , for the engine idk what to do , I don't wanna pay somebody to open ot and cost me 500$ just to telm me its deam , 99% of chance wwhen you got low compression its because the engine is dead
No probably not, but you could buy a cheap engine stand and pull the motor apart yourself easy enough with no worry about putting back together. Assess the damage and possibly part out the good. That's what I did with one of my failed motors.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by beaudin223' timestamp='1466608554' post='23999534
[quote name='Janus00' timestamp='1466607182' post='23999521']
I would have someone check on your tune, and data logs if you were able to capture any. That sounds very weird that you blew compression in all 4 cylinders. Does the engine even try and turn over?
im gonna download the map and send it to a good reputable shop in the Usa if its possible , for the engine idk what to do , I don't wanna pay somebody to open ot and cost me 500$ just to telm me its deam , 99% of chance wwhen you got low compression its because the engine is dead
No probably not, but you could buy a cheap engine stand and pull the motor apart yourself easy enough with no worry about putting back together. Assess the damage and possibly part out the good. That's what I did with one of my failed motors.
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yes u right , im gonna try to put my hand on the 2.2 , after this ill take apart the f20c and check it out , if its a minor repair ill do it and resell it after if its to huge im gonna part it , the car is at the storage for now , I spoke with CJ yesterday and told me that if I swap f22c I only have to change the rotrex pulley , but e told me the injector is not the same ? I have to swap the fuel rail , what else I have to do ?
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by beaudin223
Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1466611649' post='23999590
[quote name='beaudin223' timestamp='1466608554' post='23999534']
[quote name='Janus00' timestamp='1466607182' post='23999521']
I would have someone check on your tune, and data logs if you were able to capture any. That sounds very weird that you blew compression in all 4 cylinders. Does the engine even try and turn over?
im gonna download the map and send it to a good reputable shop in the Usa if its possible , for the engine idk what to do , I don't wanna pay somebody to open ot and cost me 500$ just to telm me its deam , 99% of chance wwhen you got low compression its because the engine is dead
No probably not, but you could buy a cheap engine stand and pull the motor apart yourself easy enough with no worry about putting back together. Assess the damage and possibly part out the good. That's what I did with one of my failed motors.
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yes u right , im gonna try to put my hand on the 2.2 , after this ill take apart the f20c and check it out , if its a minor repair ill do it and resell it after if its to huge im gonna part it , the car is at the storage for now , I spoke with CJ yesterday and told me that if I swap f22c I only have to change the rotrex pulley , but e told me the injector is not the same ? I have to swap the fuel rail , what else I have to do ?
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Everything is identical on the MY00-03/04-05 engines. That includes the stock 360cc injectors and entire fuel system. Only the stock ecu is different but both are still compatible between engines with slight fuel tuning differences. 06+ DBW it changed completely and maybe that's what he is thinking an ap2 is, which I see a fair bit. You can literally take a 04/05 complete running engine top to bottom and swap in your ap1 and turn the key, no transfer of any kind. Ive done it 4 times in my own car.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by beaudin223' timestamp='1466682617' post='24000263
[quote name='s2000Junky' timestamp='1466611649' post='23999590']
[quote name='beaudin223' timestamp='1466608554' post='23999534']
[quote name='Janus00' timestamp='1466607182' post='23999521']
I would have someone check on your tune, and data logs if you were able to capture any. That sounds very weird that you blew compression in all 4 cylinders. Does the engine even try and turn over?
im gonna download the map and send it to a good reputable shop in the Usa if its possible , for the engine idk what to do , I don't wanna pay somebody to open ot and cost me 500$ just to telm me its deam , 99% of chance wwhen you got low compression its because the engine is dead
No probably not, but you could buy a cheap engine stand and pull the motor apart yourself easy enough with no worry about putting back together. Assess the damage and possibly part out the good. That's what I did with one of my failed motors.
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yes u right , im gonna try to put my hand on the 2.2 , after this ill take apart the f20c and check it out , if its a minor repair ill do it and resell it after if its to huge im gonna part it , the car is at the storage for now , I spoke with CJ yesterday and told me that if I swap f22c I only have to change the rotrex pulley , but e told me the injector is not the same ? I have to swap the fuel rail , what else I have to do ?
[/quote]

Everything is identical on the MY00-03/04-05 engines. That includes the stock 360cc injectors and entire fuel system. Only the stock ecu is different but both are still compatible between engines with slight fuel tuning differences. 06+ DBW it changed completely and maybe that's what he is thinking an ap2 is, which I see a fair bit. You can literally take a 04/05 complete running engine top to bottom and swap in your ap1 and turn the key, no transfer of any kind. Ive done it 4 times in my own car.
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ok nice that's good new , so I just have to took my pnp and 1000c from my f20c and that's it ? its is so simple im way more happy , im gona order the pulley from CJ and re do a couple of dyno run and im readdy
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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Good luck! Will be happy to see your car running again. Sucks when this happens.
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