Power potential with this turbo kit?
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Originally Posted by GoOn3' timestamp='1341725854' post='21842235
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It seems like a lot of the people that run a 3mm headgasket blow the headgasket between 10-20k miles. You should be fine running less than 15 psi with oem studs / oem headgasket. If you want lower compression than do it right- put in lower compression pistons.
If you are not looking for any problems, I would recommend shooting for right around 400 whp (should be around 12-13 psi).
It seems like a lot of the people that run a 3mm headgasket blow the headgasket between 10-20k miles. You should be fine running less than 15 psi with oem studs / oem headgasket. If you want lower compression than do it right- put in lower compression pistons.
If you are not looking for any problems, I would recommend shooting for right around 400 whp (should be around 12-13 psi).
As stated multiple times, don't use the 3mm head gasket. It is beyond me why Inline is still pushing them as it seems all of them fail in due time.
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Woot!! That sounds good!
I know there seems to be about a 30WHP discrepancy between opinions here. I will update this thread at the end of august with pics and dyno sheet. We will see what is possible. At the end of teh day I would be OK with 375WHP because the car will still be crazy fast and have retarded throttle response/low end power, the 400WHP ideal is more for bragging rights then anything else
One thing is for sure I am going with a master tuner, and I am specifically asking for reliability, so we will see what we come up with!
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Woot!! That sounds good!
I know there seems to be about a 30WHP discrepancy between opinions here. I will update this thread at the end of august with pics and dyno sheet. We will see what is possible. At the end of teh day I would be OK with 375WHP because the car will still be crazy fast and have retarded throttle response/low end power, the 400WHP ideal is more for bragging rights then anything else
One thing is for sure I am going with a master tuner, and I am specifically asking for reliability, so we will see what we come up with!
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From: St.Petersburg/Tampa, FL
Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE' timestamp='1341751778' post='21842561
I've seen 418 whp @ 13.6psi with a 5865 on a log mani....it should be very possible with the 5857, pending tune.
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/lh...rbo-s2000.html
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/lh...rbo-s2000.html
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Woot!! That sounds good!
I know there seems to be about a 30WHP discrepancy between opinions here. I will update this thread at the end of august with pics and dyno sheet. We will see what is possible. At the end of teh day I would be OK with 375WHP because the car will still be crazy fast and have retarded throttle response/low end power, the 400WHP ideal is more for bragging rights then anything else
One thing is for sure I am going with a master tuner, and I am specifically asking for reliability, so we will see what we come up with!
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Originally Posted by GoOn3' timestamp='1341839444' post='21844481
It just gets old seeing huge numbers thrown out that are not real world. Secondly, we can not compare dyno numbers, as is apparent, because of dyno makes, ambient temp, humidity, oxygen and altitude levels, and then the biggest variable.... tuner correction!
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I made 387 at 12psi on 93 on a dyno dynamics with an inefficient revhard setup with asura 3" dual w/ resonated tp (small log manifold, 2.5" dp, nutec 50/50 54 trim t3/t4). Yes I have the advantage of 93, but I also have the disadvantage of heat and the horrible humidity that is florida climate. This is a dyno where a stock ap1 dynos at around 185 (real world enough? and yes, I have witnessed multiple examples first hand) so with a more efficient setup like the inline pro (it's about as efficient as a log setup can be) 400 is possible.
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I made 387 at 12psi on 93 on a dyno dynamics with an inefficient revhard setup with asura 3" dual w/ resonated tp (small log manifold, 2.5" dp, nutec 50/50 54 trim t3/t4). Yes I have the advantage of 93, but I also have the disadvantage of heat and the horrible humidity that is florida climate. This is a dyno where a stock ap1 dynos at around 185 (real world enough? and yes, I have witnessed multiple examples first hand) so with a more efficient setup like the inline pro (it's about as efficient as a log setup can be) 400 is possible.
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Go this back from Evans tuneing about this exact set up. They have tuned MANY s2000's with the same set-up that I will be running
"In regards to your questions left on the voice message the 3mm gasket is not reliable. If you overheat the engine once the gasket will go bad. I have had customers that the gasket lasted 2,000 miles and some that lasted 30,000 miles. I personally would leave the engine 100% stock and just install the turbo kit. At 10-12 psi on 93 octane with the right supporting modifications you'll make 375-400 whp.
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1.866.975.TUNE"
"In regards to your questions left on the voice message the 3mm gasket is not reliable. If you overheat the engine once the gasket will go bad. I have had customers that the gasket lasted 2,000 miles and some that lasted 30,000 miles. I personally would leave the engine 100% stock and just install the turbo kit. At 10-12 psi on 93 octane with the right supporting modifications you'll make 375-400 whp.
Thanks!
Jeff Evans
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I am very interested in this 330whp stock turboed greddy kit. Link? To my knowledge it has never happend. With a larger turbo yeah. Its just not feasible unless the op has a larger turbo to be under about 15 psi to achieve 400whp. Corrected and on a super cool fall day maybe but then thats not real world. I guess dyno sheets will tell all. We will see.
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Originally Posted by GoOn3' timestamp='1341870877' post='21846040
I am very interested in this 330whp stock turboed greddy kit. Link? To my knowledge it has never happend. With a larger turbo yeah. Its just not feasible unless the op has a larger turbo to be under about 15 psi to achieve 400whp. Corrected and on a super cool fall day maybe but then thats not real world. I guess dyno sheets will tell all. We will see.
Mine made 331whp at 10 psi with a custom CAI, water/meth injection, and of course a tune. I think everyone else who maxed out the greddy, short of replacing the turbo made 330-332 whp.
Maybe you missed the bolded wording above?
There is also the idea that i previously stated in that dyno numbers are far too subjective and have too many variables to compare.
Either way, the op's car wil be a blast and at the end of the day that is what counts!