Question with Opinions on Forced Induction
10:1 compression is not a real concern
it's bad tuning that will kill the engine.
There are plenty of other honda with 10:1 compression ratios and high amount of boost. You will certainly get better power than other engines with lower compression at the same amount of boost.
What is the shape of your pistons' tops?
Can you take a picture of the top of the Arias pistons?
it's bad tuning that will kill the engine.
There are plenty of other honda with 10:1 compression ratios and high amount of boost. You will certainly get better power than other engines with lower compression at the same amount of boost.
What is the shape of your pistons' tops?
Can you take a picture of the top of the Arias pistons?
For anyone intrested in the block i had purchased with the pistons and everything, here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...K%3AMERFB%3AIID
Any info on the best setup i should go for would greatly be appreciated.
Jimmy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...K%3AMERFB%3AIID
Any info on the best setup i should go for would greatly be appreciated.
Jimmy
Originally Posted by kane.s2k,Jul 28 2005, 11:04 AM
I think at cruising speeds, the S/C's at 4k RPM's with a pulley for 400whp (that's 3.25" right?) it is actually making boost going 70mph and cruising. This actually puts MORE stress on the engine than a TC since a turbo spool up is load dependant and a cent. S/C is RPM dependant.
Originally Posted by S2KJimmy,Jul 28 2005, 06:37 AM
I've been told that those pistons arent going to be to well for boost but will be well for a supercharger.
The difference between a turbo and a centrifugal SC at a given boost level is that the SC will only generate this boost at redline and WOT whereas a turbo could conceivably be producing this boost from midrange up. That is the advantage of a turbo.
As to why this block is no good for boost is beyond me. You can run the SC and mild turbo set ups on a stock block at 11.1:1 compression ratio so one would assume a built block with lower compression would be fine. Unless the piston design or coating is not compatible. I suspect the person who told you this is old school and thinks any FI set up should be 8:1CR. We know this is not the case.
So unless there is some specific reason from Arias (or problem with the build) I would say you can run any forced induction set up that people are safely running on a stock block with a much higher safety margin.
Originally Posted by Scorpion,Jul 28 2005, 09:56 PM
You are right more boost, wrong about more stress. Yes the SC is making more boost at that point than the turbo is, but the engine is seeing the exact same amount on both systems (actually vacuum at cruising speeds). The extra boost on the SC is bled off with the BOV.
Will somebody check out the link i provided and tell me if that block i purchased was a good buy or not a good buy. I got it at a great price with the pistons and so forth i was gonna just stroke it but they told me it was going to be a mission.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...K%3AMERFB%3AIID
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...K%3AMERFB%3AIID
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Come on Jimmy. If you paid $800 for it as the auction suggested it could have a crack up the side of the block and it'd still be a decent buy.
The one thing you don't get when you buy from ebay is that feeling of confidence you get from buying from a manufacturer. I'd suggest having it inspected and possibly pulled down and reassembled by someone you can trust (and not the person who told you it was good for SC but not for turbo). Should be a great base for a turbo motor.
The one thing you don't get when you buy from ebay is that feeling of confidence you get from buying from a manufacturer. I'd suggest having it inspected and possibly pulled down and reassembled by someone you can trust (and not the person who told you it was good for SC but not for turbo). Should be a great base for a turbo motor.
The block you purchased looks good if it has Darton sleeves as claimed.
The bores are 89mm so it would be around 2100+cc. This is the widest I would go. Any wider and you are better off using the long block for NA for reliability. The pistons looks good.
IMHO I would run around 10-14.7 psi of boost on this engine safely to around 8500rpm. You are better off with a good reliable turbo kit with a good intercooler. Tuning is really important so don't take short cut. Do everthing right the first time and you will have a wicked f20c.
The bores are 89mm so it would be around 2100+cc. This is the widest I would go. Any wider and you are better off using the long block for NA for reliability. The pistons looks good.
IMHO I would run around 10-14.7 psi of boost on this engine safely to around 8500rpm. You are better off with a good reliable turbo kit with a good intercooler. Tuning is really important so don't take short cut. Do everthing right the first time and you will have a wicked f20c.



