Reliability....
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putting nitrous and shooting it at that low rpm isnt a good idea. like snakeater said, puts a load on it.
What i'm sayin is a 360 whp sc is gonna be slower than a 360 whp turbo. you had a 100 shot of nitrous to a sc........you said you get 460. but you can add that 100 shot of nitrous to a turbo making 360, and then again, your faster than the the SC with 100 shot of nitrous......
If you want something to come on strong at the low rpms, go turbo. even around the track , at the lower RPMS, your having that torque to push you out of those turns.
Turbo+nitrous=FTW.
What i'm sayin is a 360 whp sc is gonna be slower than a 360 whp turbo. you had a 100 shot of nitrous to a sc........you said you get 460. but you can add that 100 shot of nitrous to a turbo making 360, and then again, your faster than the the SC with 100 shot of nitrous......
If you want something to come on strong at the low rpms, go turbo. even around the track , at the lower RPMS, your having that torque to push you out of those turns.
Turbo+nitrous=FTW.
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wut rpm should nitrous be activated?
also im not doing turbo + nitrous.... if i go turbo itll be a 400-450 whp setup but the only problem is i DD the car and gas mileage will be killed and i dont know to many turbo guys who never have problems and i cant have that much downtime.....
and for reliability with nitrous iv seen alot of other cars (civics, stangs, etc) that run nitrous safely. Im going to get a reinforced diff and stronger clutch also.... im also gonna get a built motor that can handle nitrous....
so which one would be more reliable? supercahrger +nitrous or turbo?
Any suggestions from anyone who have used nitrous before?
also im not doing turbo + nitrous.... if i go turbo itll be a 400-450 whp setup but the only problem is i DD the car and gas mileage will be killed and i dont know to many turbo guys who never have problems and i cant have that much downtime.....
and for reliability with nitrous iv seen alot of other cars (civics, stangs, etc) that run nitrous safely. Im going to get a reinforced diff and stronger clutch also.... im also gonna get a built motor that can handle nitrous....
so which one would be more reliable? supercahrger +nitrous or turbo?
Any suggestions from anyone who have used nitrous before?
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well if your gonna go all out and spend money to rebuild your motor, that means you got tons of money to spend. And having a turbo doesnt mean its not reliable.......if you buy the right components, its the tune that matters the most.
The reason why folks on here can get away with just adding a 2mm or 3mm Headgasket and slap a turbo and run it without problems, is because your engine is already forged as if it were like an FI motor. So there is no real need to rebuild the motor especially if your gonna be pushing 450 to the wheels.
If i were you, just go turbo, and no nitrous. that would be a great reliable set up if you get a great reliable EMS.
Anytime you FI a motor and add nitrous, your pushing it. Just turbo, get your 450 that you want, and not worry about having nitrous. thats just one less thing you wont have a headache for. If you want tru reliability? Sell your car and buy something that already has the power your looking for. Once you go FI, you already crossed into the realm of no return.
The reason why folks on here can get away with just adding a 2mm or 3mm Headgasket and slap a turbo and run it without problems, is because your engine is already forged as if it were like an FI motor. So there is no real need to rebuild the motor especially if your gonna be pushing 450 to the wheels.
If i were you, just go turbo, and no nitrous. that would be a great reliable set up if you get a great reliable EMS.
Anytime you FI a motor and add nitrous, your pushing it. Just turbo, get your 450 that you want, and not worry about having nitrous. thats just one less thing you wont have a headache for. If you want tru reliability? Sell your car and buy something that already has the power your looking for. Once you go FI, you already crossed into the realm of no return.
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Originally Posted by S2KSandy,Mar 20 2008, 03:23 AM
well if your gonna go all out and spend money to rebuild your motor, that means you got tons of money to spend. And having a turbo doesnt mean its not reliable.......if you buy the right components, its the tune that matters the most.
The reason why folks on here can get away with just adding a 2mm or 3mm Headgasket and slap a turbo and run it without problems, is because your engine is already forged as if it were like an FI motor. So there is no real need to rebuild the motor especially if your gonna be pushing 450 to the wheels.
If i were you, just go turbo, and no nitrous. that would be a great reliable set up if you get a great reliable EMS.
Anytime you FI a motor and add nitrous, your pushing it. Just turbo, get your 450 that you want, and not worry about having nitrous. thats just one less thing you wont have a headache for. If you want tru reliability? Sell your car and buy something that already has the power your looking for. Once you go FI, you already crossed into the realm of no return.
The reason why folks on here can get away with just adding a 2mm or 3mm Headgasket and slap a turbo and run it without problems, is because your engine is already forged as if it were like an FI motor. So there is no real need to rebuild the motor especially if your gonna be pushing 450 to the wheels.
If i were you, just go turbo, and no nitrous. that would be a great reliable set up if you get a great reliable EMS.
Anytime you FI a motor and add nitrous, your pushing it. Just turbo, get your 450 that you want, and not worry about having nitrous. thats just one less thing you wont have a headache for. If you want tru reliability? Sell your car and buy something that already has the power your looking for. Once you go FI, you already crossed into the realm of no return.
So i havn't decided what im going to do yet... What headers would be good to use with either setup?
Also i know supercharger and nitrous will be very expensive but either setup (Turbo or supercharger) i will probably have the engine buiilt regardless... i want this engine to hold 500-600 whp later on... i want to do everything right the first time and i dont mind spending the money on it....
im expecting to spend 10k-15k in total and also have 5k for any expenses later on for "emergencies"
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ALSO if you plan for the 500-600whp+ range....you have only one choice that is that reasonable and that is a turbocharger.
If you got the 15K and the 5K for the long block if worse come to worst.... your ready to do a full turbo build
Do it right, do a 3" from turbo back. Drop your 2mm/3mm headgasket on there, run AEM and some 1000cc injectors that will idle smooth with the beauty of AEM. ETC> ETC> ETC> You have to figure out if you want to do a tubular or a cast manifold. Cast is always far more reliable but less efficient. You could always upgrade later as I'm about to do. I would suggest a cast in general but if your goal is major hp tubular is the way to go.
A supercharger will not hit those 600whp numbers without a unreasonable ammount of work
GO TURBO FTW.
that's just my .02
-Greg
I'm at work, sorry this isn't well written out.
If you got the 15K and the 5K for the long block if worse come to worst.... your ready to do a full turbo build
Do it right, do a 3" from turbo back. Drop your 2mm/3mm headgasket on there, run AEM and some 1000cc injectors that will idle smooth with the beauty of AEM. ETC> ETC> ETC> You have to figure out if you want to do a tubular or a cast manifold. Cast is always far more reliable but less efficient. You could always upgrade later as I'm about to do. I would suggest a cast in general but if your goal is major hp tubular is the way to go.
A supercharger will not hit those 600whp numbers without a unreasonable ammount of work
GO TURBO FTW.
that's just my .02
-Greg
I'm at work, sorry this isn't well written out.
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one thing is also im going to be tuning with the greddy emanage ult. There are some very competent tuners in my area and i want to keep traction control which AEM doesn't allow. Does anyone know if the K-pro allows for traction control etc to still be intact?
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