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DavidNJ 06-12-2018 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by LostMarine (Post 24474301)
ok, ill trust the people making $ vs the people that lost thousands on airated engine blocks.. i have seen 1st hand failsafes not save people.

if a small nozzle for iat supression only, ok, no problem. for fuel or octane, not needed and WHEN it fails, your gonna wish you didnt run it

Do you have more specifics on the failure? What the system was, how it failed, what failsafe was used.

Between knock sensors and the various fault detection schemes, how is this different than other device or sensor failures, for example a flex fuel sensor?

This is a blog about water/meth on a Civic "R" DI using a Motec 142: motec – VitTuned Blog AEM also had video showing a simulated water/meth failure on a engine running on a dyno.


hatrickstu 06-12-2018 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by LostMarine (Post 24474301)
if a small nozzle for iat supression only, ok, no problem. for fuel or octane, not needed and WHEN it fails, your gonna wish you didnt run it

Bingo.

AP1Chief 06-13-2018 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by DavidNJ (Post 24474282)
Wouldn't a Pro-Meth sniper or volute with its PWM solenoid handle the pre-turbo injection?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...8b6ff57bbc.jpg

Eh that's post compression though putting the nozzle in the volute like that, Idk if you would see a density increase as much as before the compressor wheel... but I do not have experience with nozzles there.

I wouldn't be drilling into the side of my housing ether.

LostMarine 06-13-2018 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by DavidNJ (Post 24474451)
Do you have more specifics on the failure? What the system was, how it failed, what failsafe was used.

Between knock sensors and the various fault detection schemes, how is this different than other device or sensor failures, for example a flex fuel sensor?

This is a blog about water/meth on a Civic "R" DI using a Motec 142: motec – VitTuned Blog AEM also had video showing a simulated water/meth failure on a engine running on a dyno.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6_cdDQrg_Y

ive seen it with all the mainstream failsafes, cmgs, aem, DO, snow etc. PWM controlled doesnt react fast enough. Especially when its multiple lines being run, or a line comes loose/splits after the failsafe and failsafe still sees flow, just not getting into the engine.

flexfuel sensors measure content and connect to the ecu/standalone directly to adjust based on "octane", not volume.


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