So I want to install some FI looking for about 400hp. I don't want any issues with it. So here is what I'm thinking

Inline PRO having them install it
then bring to Jeff Evans and have him tune it.

 

there is no such thing as NO issues with a turbo kit.

the inline pro kit is an excellent choice in terms of reliability but off the top of my head here are a few things that i have to keep up on with mine..

the silicone coupler off the turbo tends to melt every couple thousand miles.

the oil relocation can occasionally drip some oil here and there and require retightening.

i have on a few occasions boosted high enough to pop intercooler pipes off - even with t bolt clamps and proper silicone.

you must inspect your wastegate/downpipe/turbo bolts every so often to make sure they are not backing out on their own.

none of these issues are enough to keep me away from a kit like this. just be warned that this is what you should look out for

go for it!

 

Want no issues? Do it yourself.

It'll be so much easier to troubleshoot! You'll acquire sort of like a 7th sense or something, when something goes wrong.

Do your research. Read Read Read Read. Ask, bug, read more.

The more informed your choice(s), the better, the happier you'll be in the end.

I'm with a turbo kit now, custom, 10psi, around 300 at the wheels, I'm happy. Had issues, knew what most of them were, but I saved money by being able to fix stuff myself (except tuning).

 

I wish there was a way for stock reliablity but 400hp out of 4 cylinders is beyond that. Just make sure you don't skimp on anything and you should have a very nice setup with good reliability. Ya, should be able to take you step by step through all the parts you will need to make the kit as fool proof as possible. If you get a chance to talk to him ask about the Ball Bearing option, ARP studs and most importantly what EMS you should use.

Why not have IP tune it though? I think Jeff does extremely good work and have a lot of respect for him but IP is installing the kit.

I can tell you that if you need reliability and want torque this is the only way to go for me. If, however, you are only looking for a 400HP and reliability I think you should take another look at a supercharger. The simplicity of the Vortech kit with a smaller pulley and EMS is impossible to beat, not to be confused with perfect.


Good luck

 

I am installing my kit now trying to avoid all of those issues can you look over the following?

What type of heat wrap are you using?

Sounds like you either got bad fitting to begin with or they are bad now. Before replacing them read the Aeroquip's Catalogue specifically PG 50. I have ran mine for about 2000-2500 miles with no drips.
http://hydraulics.eaton.com/products/pdfs/...PE-MC001-E2.pdf

How much boost are you running? Which fittings are coming loose? Have you tried at tie bar?


Have you tried using a lock nut? Do you have a flex pipe on the DP or Exhaust? Are you using ARP studs?
http://www.mcmaster.com/#93795a230/=238r5n

 

Step 1.
Don't go FI.


Seriously.



Sc kits tend to be less problematic. If the car has survived a few thousand miles in the hands of your builder/tuner, then it should be good to go. If it has only had a lap around the block, expect problems. If you want no problems, you better expect someone else to have and drive your car for at least a month.

If you still insist, there are steps you can take on your own, but it will take time, effort, and lots of money. If your tuner/builder does all of these, expect to double or triple your quoted price for a basic kit.
1. V-band everything you can. If not vbands, then another similar clamp that won't come loose. The higher the temperature of the part, the more critical this is.
2. On intercooler piping, make sure the edges are rolled.
3. Keep a stock or larger battery.
4. Make sure the tune has been done by a well respected tuner and includes cold start after sitting overnight in 0F weather.
5. Test for thousands of miles.
6. Use high grade properly terminated hoses.
7. If you go AEM EMS, use Modifry's ECT fix.
8. Upgrade the radiator with a Koyo or similar.
9. Upgrade the entire driveline with a PPG gearbox, Inline Pro diff, and nice clutch. Be aware that clutches which hold 400 whp tend to be very noisy and not streetable.
10. If at all possible, run an oil cooled/lubricated turbo. DO NOT run water cooling. The piping is one more point of failure. This means no Garrett GTxxR turbos.
11. Do not run a thicker headgasket.
12. Do not relocate the stock oil filter or mess with the stock oil cooler.
13. Run a filter on the turbo.
14. Go tubular. log manifolds are less prone to cracking, but bolts fall off more often.
15. Drive like a wimp and never race your car (or launch it aggressively)
16. Never turn up the boost beyond where the tuner set it.
17. Strongly consider a built motor if you go turbo.
18. Strongly consider a SC kit. They tend to be more reliable.
19. Make sure you have more than enough fuel system and a boost cut just in case.
20. Don't go FI.

Tim

 

I have to agree with the previous posts. You won't ever find a setup that will give you zero issues. You will still have things go wrong even with a supercharger. Most important things to remember are do as much research as you can and use a good tuner, which you already found one. Evans tuned my car.

 

I also sent you a PM.

 

this is extremly helpful thanks guys....be sure this will all be printed out and reviewed at time of install especially timq

I'm kind of stuck on the turbo, but am still open minded

Telos - love the checklist, just what I was looking for

Thanks everyone!

 

Step 1: Money.

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