Interesting Cusco Article on Tower Bars
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Originally Posted by SFDC4,Aug 15 2007, 12:04 PM
I have never installed a strut bar while my car is raised. Is that the proper way to do it? Wouldnt your struts fall out when you jack it up unbolted? 
I have a CF Cusco I was going to put on today.
I have a CF Cusco I was going to put on today.
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https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...rut%20bar&st=75
you guys might wanna read through that thread as well. our cars don't have struts
you guys might wanna read through that thread as well. our cars don't have struts
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[QUOTE=tekka01,Aug 15 2007, 02:07 PM] https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...rut%20bar&st=75
you guys might wanna read through that thread as well.
you guys might wanna read through that thread as well.
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From: KCAI/Osaka
S2000's don't use MacPherson struts, saying an S2000 doesn't have struts is just going to confuse the crap out of people.
struts is a pretty acceptable term for a shock/damper, even if it is not correct.
The S2000 has struts and has Strut Towers. what is mentioned in that thread is truly not illustrating their point well. The top of the damper is physically connected to the strut tower so the chassis is still going to absorb some impact of the motions put on the suspension at that point, causing very slight flex in these parts of the chassis.
this is really being overcomplicated, it is very obvious what the purpose of this is and the effect in can have.
i think what they were trying to illustrate in that thread is that STB's don't effect the car due to the mounting points of the Double Wishbone suspension, but I must say I can't entirely agree with the points they made. Very good points indeed though.
the S2000 is unique in having a HUGE brace already connecting the strut towers at the point where most of the suspension impact occurs, but saying a STB will have NO affect at all is pushing it. Some of the impact of the suspension on the chassis inevitably is absorbed, even if it is very slight, by the area where the top of the damper connects to the strut tower. if this slight motion is stopped, the shock will actually gain a slight amount of travel, which is definitely not an easy thing to come by.
Even if the only force applied to the shock towers is indeed coming from the force of the spring and damper, there still must be some very slight flex caused by that force.
It would be very interesting to see someone do a test similar to the one done by Cusco, withe the tie on the damper, with multiple runs and averages or max amounts.
struts is a pretty acceptable term for a shock/damper, even if it is not correct.
The S2000 has struts and has Strut Towers. what is mentioned in that thread is truly not illustrating their point well. The top of the damper is physically connected to the strut tower so the chassis is still going to absorb some impact of the motions put on the suspension at that point, causing very slight flex in these parts of the chassis.
this is really being overcomplicated, it is very obvious what the purpose of this is and the effect in can have.
i think what they were trying to illustrate in that thread is that STB's don't effect the car due to the mounting points of the Double Wishbone suspension, but I must say I can't entirely agree with the points they made. Very good points indeed though.
the S2000 is unique in having a HUGE brace already connecting the strut towers at the point where most of the suspension impact occurs, but saying a STB will have NO affect at all is pushing it. Some of the impact of the suspension on the chassis inevitably is absorbed, even if it is very slight, by the area where the top of the damper connects to the strut tower. if this slight motion is stopped, the shock will actually gain a slight amount of travel, which is definitely not an easy thing to come by.
Even if the only force applied to the shock towers is indeed coming from the force of the spring and damper, there still must be some very slight flex caused by that force.
It would be very interesting to see someone do a test similar to the one done by Cusco, withe the tie on the damper, with multiple runs and averages or max amounts.