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Originally Posted by JDM_JOE,Dec 9 2010, 02:20 PM
What do you guys think about the Springfield XD .45?
if you want a plastic gun that isnt a glock why not go with something that isnt ugly as sin like a M&P?
I like the M&P a lot. comfortable grip angle(designed to mock the 1911), interchangeable grip pieces, very good looking, as reliable as glock.
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Originally Posted by JDM_JOE,Dec 10 2010, 08:41 PM
I have experience with rifles but none with any pistols. Yeah I understand that a more experienced shooter with a 9mm will do more damage then an inexperienced one with a .45. I plan on reloading my own ammo as I have a friend who has experience with it and does his own for his S&W XD .45.
I plan on going to a local gun shop and shoot some used 9mm and .45 to see what I enjoy more. Also I have gotten so many comments from other forums and friends about a Glock but like you said, I just cannot got over the way it feels in my hands. It is just to boxy to me.
So far the guns that have caught my eye are the H&K USP, Sig P220, DX .45, and a few different 1911's, but some of those guns are out of my price range though. I want to keep it under $700. I will spend more depending on how much I like the gun though but not much more.
I plan on going to a local gun shop and shoot some used 9mm and .45 to see what I enjoy more. Also I have gotten so many comments from other forums and friends about a Glock but like you said, I just cannot got over the way it feels in my hands. It is just to boxy to me.
So far the guns that have caught my eye are the H&K USP, Sig P220, DX .45, and a few different 1911's, but some of those guns are out of my price range though. I want to keep it under $700. I will spend more depending on how much I like the gun though but not much more.
If you dislike Glock's grip, as I do, I would highly suggest you look at the M&P line from S&W, they can be had for mid $500 range, come with 2 mags, and interchangeable palm swells to play with. Its lower bore axis is similar to Glock as opposed to the XD which sits a bit high for my liking and doesn't have a grip safety which is redundant on a striker-fire weapon.
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Originally Posted by khangoc,Dec 10 2010, 10:07 PM
H&K is overrated if you ask me. All their parts are proprietary meaning everything costs arm/leg prices. And tbh, it's just a polymer da/sa gun... you can get a Sig Pro 2022 for half the price not to mention more "traditional" manual of arms. Keep in mind H&K uses an atypical decock lever and mag release. And finally, it's a DA/SA so you'll have to spend lots of time mastering the 1st DA pull as well as the SA trigger pull.
If you dislike Glock's grip, as I do, I would highly suggest you look at the M&P line from S&W, they can be had for mid $500 range, come with 2 mags, and interchangeable palm swells to play with. Its lower bore axis is similar to Glock as opposed to the XD which sits a bit high for my liking and doesn't have a grip safety which is redundant on a striker-fire weapon.
If you dislike Glock's grip, as I do, I would highly suggest you look at the M&P line from S&W, they can be had for mid $500 range, come with 2 mags, and interchangeable palm swells to play with. Its lower bore axis is similar to Glock as opposed to the XD which sits a bit high for my liking and doesn't have a grip safety which is redundant on a striker-fire weapon.
Seriously though, sometimes it sucks having so many choices. Half the time I can never agree on where I want to eat out for lunch, let a lone spending a good amount of cash on a gun lol.
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Originally Posted by JDM_JOE,Dec 10 2010, 11:37 PM
I actually like the M&P too. I will try to get my hands on it as well. After looking how cheap I can get 9mm I might just stick to the 9mm and not even worry about reloading.
Seriously though, sometimes it sucks having so many choices. Half the time I can never agree on where I want to eat out for lunch, let a lone spending a good amount of cash on a gun lol.
Seriously though, sometimes it sucks having so many choices. Half the time I can never agree on where I want to eat out for lunch, let a lone spending a good amount of cash on a gun lol.
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Nice thread!
I have a Ruger 10/22 for fun and purchased a Glock 30 last year.
http://flic.kr/p/911Zsu
http://flic.kr/p/911Zs9
Too bad Illinois is extremely ghey when it comes to anything "gun".
Conceal carry, secure open carry, transport, etc.
Foid wasn't hard to obtain at all, but your really restricted to hunting/home protection.
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I have a Ruger 10/22 for fun and purchased a Glock 30 last year.
http://flic.kr/p/911Zsu
http://flic.kr/p/911Zs9
Too bad Illinois is extremely ghey when it comes to anything "gun".
Conceal carry, secure open carry, transport, etc.
Foid wasn't hard to obtain at all, but your really restricted to hunting/home protection.
Edited because pics will not show
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I made the novice mistake of thinking bigger is better when I first got in to the gun game... If I had known what I know now, I would have definitely gone 9mm.
My list of why:
-With the advances in ammunition nowadays 9mm can be an extremely lethal round.
-Do to such little recoil, you can shoot faster and more accurate than with a larger caliber.
-Although this (legally) isn't much of a factor in CA, 9mm mags can carry almost double the amount of ammo of a .45 mag. This is obviously a huge advantage.
-Lastly, cheaper ammunition means that you can, and will likely train more than with a more expensive caliber.
My list of why:
-With the advances in ammunition nowadays 9mm can be an extremely lethal round.
-Do to such little recoil, you can shoot faster and more accurate than with a larger caliber.
-Although this (legally) isn't much of a factor in CA, 9mm mags can carry almost double the amount of ammo of a .45 mag. This is obviously a huge advantage.
-Lastly, cheaper ammunition means that you can, and will likely train more than with a more expensive caliber.
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Originally Posted by Aftermath686,Dec 11 2010, 01:42 AM
I made the novice mistake of thinking bigger is better when I first got in to the gun game... If I had known what I know now, I would have definitely gone 9mm.
My list of why:
-With the advances in ammunition nowadays 9mm can be an extremely lethal round.
-Do to such little recoil, you can shoot faster and more accurate than with a larger caliber.
-Although this (legally) isn't much of a factor in CA, 9mm mags can carry almost double the amount of ammo of a .45 mag. This is obviously a huge advantage.
-Lastly, cheaper ammunition means that you can, and will likely train more than with a more expensive caliber.
My list of why:
-With the advances in ammunition nowadays 9mm can be an extremely lethal round.
-Do to such little recoil, you can shoot faster and more accurate than with a larger caliber.
-Although this (legally) isn't much of a factor in CA, 9mm mags can carry almost double the amount of ammo of a .45 mag. This is obviously a huge advantage.
-Lastly, cheaper ammunition means that you can, and will likely train more than with a more expensive caliber.
your 3rd point is a good one - in regard to ban states. IF I lived in a state that had a capacity limit on magazines, I'd definitely tailor my handgun selection based on the maximum amount of rounds I could have in a magazine.
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Originally Posted by Aftermath686,Dec 11 2010, 12:42 AM
I made the novice mistake of thinking bigger is better when I first got in to the gun game... If I had known what I know now, I would have definitely gone 9mm.
My list of why:
-With the advances in ammunition nowadays 9mm can be an extremely lethal round.
-Do to such little recoil, you can shoot faster and more accurate than with a larger caliber.
-Although this (legally) isn't much of a factor in CA, 9mm mags can carry almost double the amount of ammo of a .45 mag. This is obviously a huge advantage.
-Lastly, cheaper ammunition means that you can, and will likely train more than with a more expensive caliber.
My list of why:
-With the advances in ammunition nowadays 9mm can be an extremely lethal round.
-Do to such little recoil, you can shoot faster and more accurate than with a larger caliber.
-Although this (legally) isn't much of a factor in CA, 9mm mags can carry almost double the amount of ammo of a .45 mag. This is obviously a huge advantage.
-Lastly, cheaper ammunition means that you can, and will likely train more than with a more expensive caliber.
The US military is now seeing that the 9mm doesn't have the takedown power needed in combat and is thinking of going back to the .45, or at least bigger than 9.
Edit To Add:
heres a video of a pretty good shooter with some pretty good shooting techniques to review whether youre a "novice" or a pro.
you can see that even after making the "novice mistake" of buying a big caliber, and not being able to carry as much ammo, he does alright with the .45, even with that crazy recoil, i think he shoots pretty quickly. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48 [/media]&playnext=1&list=PLFA0A2D37B92F7E74&index=5
ive had my .45 for about 8 months and put about 900-1000 rounds through it. not as much as my .40, but ive had my .40 for much longer.
in all honesty though, it comes down to practice, and preference. im not as good as the guy in the video at all. but i can shoot and reload my .45 fast enough to trust it as my go-to gun. if youre going to buy a gun and you think the .45 is gonna hurt you too much to shoot it, or you dont want to pay the extra few cent per round to get some practice, get something that you will use frequently, and not be scared of. if you feel that with a .22 you can put 10 rounds down range accurately in 6 seconds, but with a .45 you can do 10 rounds in 15 seconds sort of accurately, the .22 is clearly a better option.