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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 05:27 AM
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Um, is that supposed to be good looking? It looks like you either rolled your fenders with a crowbar, or those ill-fitting rims rolled them for you.....
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 03_AP1,Jul 19 2006, 07:27 AM
Um, is that supposed to be good looking? It looks like you either rolled your fenders with a crowbar, or those ill-fitting rims rolled them for you.....
I was about to say the same thing.

the rear looks like the fender wrapped around the wheel, and also messed up the line/crease that goes from the front fender, across the doors, and to the rear headlight.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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[QUOTE]becides id rather use the looks of my s2000 to pick up the ladies instead of impressing a bunch of guys at the track
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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i had 19's on a stock setup on a 99 civic and i had no problems
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Um, Duh... it's a lot harder to break 30 lb wheels free than it is to break 14 lb wheels free lol.gif
In what circumstances is this important? If you are cruising down a straight, flat road then you may have 16 extra pounds of vertical load giving you traction, but if you are cornering on anything other than a perfectly flat surface, the extra weight of a 30 lb wheel will be much less willing to move over a bumpy surface and lose traction when compared to a light-weight wheel that will easily move in response to an uneven road surface.

Also, I find it hard to believe that ride quality is better with 18's, given the shorter sidewall. How is the ride "better?" If you mean "harsher" or "firmer" (which may equate to "better" handling) that makes more sense. But usually when people refer to ride quality, they mean it's softer.
Yes, the tires provide a certain amount of spring that isolates vibration from the cabin that gets reduced with a smaller aspect ratio, but a heavier wheel will again be much less willing to move over a bumpy surface and less movement of the wheels means less movement in the cabin, superior ride quality.

How do the importances of sidewall or unsprung weight compare to eachother in the end effect of ride quality I cannot say...

The reason why the ride is better, is simple physics. Surface area. The same bumps are transferred to a wider track, thus not making the ride as jolting. Same concept as those guys that lay down on nails. One nail will puncture, but since there is more surface area on a lot of nails, the pressure is not as great.
I believe that if the bumps are the same height, they will move the wheel up or down the same displacement regardless of the width of the wheel.

I don't think the bed of nails analogy fits correctly here, I know that the weight will be spread out over all of the nails instead of just one, but in the situation of riding over a bump, a rise in the road will cause a force upward on a constant section of the tire ( the width of the bump ), no matter how wide the tire is. In the bed of nails analogy, the surface area of the bump (amount of nails) is changing, where in the bump in the road analogy, its the size of the person sitting on the nails. The guy will still get punctured, even if hes huge.

Perhaps if you are riding a wide enough tire, the ride quality may improve when you go over a hole in the ground as apposed to a bump. If the tire is wide enough, the sides may be able to hold the entire wheel from going down in the hole.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Um, Duh... it's a lot harder to break 30 lb wheels free than it is to break 14 lb wheels free lol.gif
In what circumstances is this important? If you are cruising down a straight, flat road then you may have 16 extra pounds of vertical load giving you traction, but if you are cornering on anything other than a perfectly flat surface, the extra weight of a 30 lb wheel will be much less willing to move over a bumpy surface and lose traction when compared to a light-weight wheel that will easily move in response to an uneven road surface.
I was being sarcastic.

Yes, the tires provide a certain amount of spring that isolates vibration from the cabin that gets reduced with a smaller aspect ratio, but a heavier wheel will again be much less willing to move over a bumpy surface and less movement of the wheels means less movement in the cabin, superior ride quality.
You are absolutely nuts if you think ride quality will improve going from a stock 16" (or even 17") S2000 wheel to a 19" wheel (much less a 20"). I'm sorry, but you saying the tires provide a "certain amount" of spring that isolates vibration... is kind of like me saying that the engine provides a "certain amount" of forward propulsion to a vehicle. Give the tire some more credit.

Why do you think luxury automakers known for their cushy rides (like Lexus, Cadillac, Buick, etc.) always use wheel and tire combinations with large sidewalls? All things being equal, less tire always means harsher ride.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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I need to put a warning on this thread...
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Prowler_orange,Jul 18 2006, 10:44 PM
You guys wanna see a "showoff" S2K with 19"? Check out this link
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredv...s2000_widebody/

lol. that car was on ebay go 30k. 1 bidder at the time.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kcalgary,Jul 19 2006, 01:22 PM
i had 19's on a stock setup on a 99 civic and i had no problems
And that has what to do with putting 19's on an S2K?

Should have known you were a Civic boy
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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My old setup. They were 19" forged aluminum and weighed the same as the stock wheel/tire combo. The car is my daily driver and I liked driving on them a lot.





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