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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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How about the JDM model? Does anyone have any idea about their specs?
@ theMuffinMan: thanks for the numbers can anyone give a driver feedback on how the car handles wit these? In terms of the car's responsiveness on the corners, straight line, trail braking, limit predictability, etc.

My car was set by the shop on -1.5 camber in the front and -2.5 camber in the rear. Don't have the exact numbers of the other details but, i think i haven't really pushed it to the limit yet. Only story i can give was one night when i tried to remove the passenger seat, Rear tools and Oem Spare tire the car fishtailed twice during a quick shift from 1st to 2nd. On dry pavement.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ap1_tot,Nov 12 2009, 12:33 PM
How about the JDM model? Does anyone have any idea about their specs?
@ theMuffinMan: thanks for the numbers can anyone give a driver feedback on how the car handles wit these? In terms of the car's responsiveness on the corners, straight line, trail braking, limit predictability, etc.

My car was set by the shop on -1.5 camber in the front and -2.5 camber in the rear. Don't have the exact numbers of the other details but, i think i haven't really pushed it to the limit yet. Only story i can give was one night when i tried to remove the passenger seat, Rear tools and Oem Spare tire the car fishtailed twice during a quick shift from 1st to 2nd. On dry pavement.
I don't have the exact UK specs, just slightly more camber, -1.5 F and -2.2 R. Same toe settings, and 5.5 caster.

From a driver's perspective, the car feels more planted in turns. When approaching the limits of adhesion, oversteer is *very* predictable and gradual. You just keep your foot in the throttle and correct with slight countersteer. The car will follow the road more, so if you're on uneven surfaces, you'll have to fight it a little, although it really isn't that much more noticeable than stock.

High speed stability is maintained. The car feels very good when crusing the interstate.

Haven't had any track days yet, but then again...I'm a 2 track days / year kinda guy, so I wouldn't be able to comment on this much anyway. I do drive my car like I'm turning the volume up to 11 most of the time (besides when I'm in traffic) so I feel like I do have a pretty good idea of the differences between the 2. Overall, the car is much less tail happy, and less snappy when approaching the limit.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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I had the UK alignment and enjoyed it, but I do a 40 mile one way commute for work and have noticed an incredible amount of tire wear

I'll probably be going to OEM alignment for the time being.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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you need to keep in mind that the alignment over the years are paired with different spring/shock specs... unless you know the pros/cons, be careful with the combos...
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 04:27 AM
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So I take it that the UK alignment specs for the AP2s remained the same?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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I just tried to get the UK spec alignment, but I still think the guy who had my car fishtailed into a curb or something and might have slightly bent something. No one can find any damage, but I have never had full alignment adjustments. Car drives fine though. Biggest thing was I couldn't get much toe in the back.

I ended up with -1 camber front and a little over 6 caster 0 toe in front (which is pretty good). Back I ended up with -2 camber and less than +.1 total rear toe, so that is what is really off. Car really handles well though.

How would not having much toe affect handling?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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well i got the UK alignment and loved it. the car felt awesome at Harris Hill Road and i did very well but im going back to stock alignment asap. just from one track day i can see all the wear on the tires. thanks for everyone input and help!
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan,Nov 12 2009, 10:55 AM
I had the UK alignment and enjoyed it, but I do a 40 mile one way commute for work and have noticed an incredible amount of tire wear

I'll probably be going to OEM alignment for the time being.
well it is a performance alignment with increased wear in exchange for performance.

the uk alignment is probably the best choice for anyone looking for increased handling performance. the only thing better would be a custom corner balanced alignment job...and not everyone needs that.
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