Hey guys, I'm just about to purchase an apexi neo. I'm just wondering if someone could tell me if Ill be needing any new parts, ie sensors or what not to enable it to work or is it literally just plug and play? Also, are these things as easy to play around with as they make out? Ill be taking it to the shop for its first tune but after that is it possible for me to tinker around with different setting or would I just stuff it all up. Any feed back on what you's think about yours would be appreciated too before I blow my money on one. Thanks heaps

 

You don't need anything else. A PnP harness adapter like those sold by Boomslang would be advisable because it makes it so easy to connect and remove once you want to sell it.

They are very simple to setup/use once you figure out what all the screens/settings do. If you have a wideband sensor installed you can easily street tune as necessary. They don't have much functionality, but they do allow you to lower your VTEC (and base engagement off throttle position) and lean out any rich areas. Search for info threads with posts from S2000Junky and myself for more info.

 

I don't have a wideband sensor. I have been looking for one though because I seen somewhere that someone was saying ill be doing damage to my engine without it. Is this true?

 

Yes.
Get an E-Manage Ultimate.

 

Do you need other parts for the install of an emanage? Is it as easy to tune as a neo, or are there more options?

 

The Emanage and the Neo aren't even on the same playing field. The Emanage has much more capability but is far more complex to tune. There are experienced tuners who have a hard time trying to tune them.

The Neo is fine as long as you recognize its limitations.

 

There are experienced tuners who won't touch emanage and say they are garbage. Go with the Neo and have someone tune it, you won't need anything more than the Neo as they will just run a o2 off the tail pipe while tuning. Depending on the year you may need a FPR to add fuel.

 

Really? I've been researching the emanage flat out and can't find any bad reviews any where unlike the neo. There are alot of good reviews for the neo but atleast 1 in 3 are saying they should have went stand alone. Apparently emanage is as closest thing to a stand alone you can buy?Have you ever owned either of the 2? My 12 month plan is to have the s2 turbod by this time next year so I'm starting to figure the emanage would be the way to go. If I do go emanage I could start to purchase a few other mods now that I wouldn't be able to tune for with the neo. You can tune for cams and ITBs withe the emanage can't you?

 

I'll say it and a few others will probably echo it, but if you are going turbo in the next year then go ahead and buy a standalone if you HAVE to have something to tune with right now. Otherwise just wait it out on the stock ECU and buy a standalone when you get all your turbo stuff installed. You will save money in tuning time and frustration if you just get an AEM ECU versus trying to get it to run right with an Emanage. The list of tuners that are actually experienced and good at tuning Emanage is just too small. Unless you are willing to devote hours into learning how to tune it yourself.

The AEM ECU has been proven a million times over and tons of tuners know how to work with it. Hondata is another option if you want to invest in the KPro (more work, more money). Haltech is another option as long as you have a good Haltech tuner in your area (what I currently run).

You could buy a used Neo and use it to lower VTEC for the next year, then sell it and buy a standalone once you go turbo... you'd probably be able to sell it for just as much as you bought it for (I sold mine for $30 more than I bought it for a few years ago).