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Vilela 12-30-2013 12:31 AM

F22C all motor (new member)
 
HI to everyone.

First i want you to know that my English is horrible, i understand 99% of the topics but i dont write or speak very well.

I'm from Portugal and i'm leaving at Switzerland.

Unfortunately i dont have a S2000, but i have a Toyota AE86, with a F20C engine fited, know being transformed to an F22C.

I know and i visite the site by 1 year i think, but never did any comment or topic, but now, i have been gathering all the parts for my engine and i have almost all of them. Its a slow project, because its a full built car and engine, its my obsession.

The car is not ready but i hope to have it ready this new year. Until now, its a 4 year project.

I will start to give a BIG "thanks" for Patrick from Urge Designs, he help me to chose almost all the parts for my engine.

I bought a F20C but like it is a full built engine, i decided to do the F22C to get some few more hp.

I'm not a mechanic and i never worked with cars. I think before start this project i change the oïl of one car lool It has been a big big adventure lool was me who chose all the parts for the chassis, and to chose them, i passed all this years searching and reading on internet, and talking with people who knows about the bussiness.

I dont have hp goals for this engine, because i dont know how it will works on AE86 chassis, because the exhaust and i will probably need to modify the headers. But i hope to have between 320/340 crank hp.

The only thing i can show for now is the parts, the engine will be ready in 2 or 3 months after have all the parts. The engine is "almost" a GT Engine spec from Urge Designs


So list is:

1- F22C Crank (searching one)
2- Crower rods
3- Wiseco 89mm Custom Urge Designs pistons
4- Supertech valve train kit
5- Urge Designs ITBS
6- Urge Designs full head work
7- Cometic head gasket
9- Brian Crower stage 2 cams
10- ACL bearings
11- Darton Sleeves
12- Injector dynamics injectors
13- Works pulleys kit (less crank)
14- Fluid damper crank pulley
15- OEM new alternator, starter motor, tensioner idler and chain tensioner, oil pump and oil pump chain, water pump, cams chain, all new block and valve cover gaskets, etc
16- ARP Studs
17- Fidanza flywheel
18- Haltech ECU and Racepak data logger dash kit
19- Mocal oil coller
20- Koyo water radiator
21- Stage 2 Competition Clutch (dont know yet but probably this one)
22- Modified oil pan to fit AE86 crossmember
23- Custom engine mounts
24- J's Racing Header
25- Custom 3" exhaust

And all the other parts outside engine like walbro fuel pump, atl fuel cell, etc..

I have some of the parts right now, and i'm wating for the head, pistons and rods from Urge Designs. Will order the sleeves this month and try to find a F22C crank.

I will put some photos this afternoon, i have to go now.

I want to receive all yours feedbacks and knowledge, i'm here to learn =)

Vilela 12-30-2013 02:45 AM

First i bought a Toyota 20v Blacktop engine, but after driving a S2000 and after saw some AE86 F2XC projects, i decided to sell it and buy a F20C. I prefer NA engines, so, i chosed to follow NA route.

The parts i have now.

The engine itself

http://imageshack.us/a/img10/7417/i0oy.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img132/1526/f0qk.jpg


Some OEM parts

http://imageshack.us/a/img23/9923/voan.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img849/1876/jo1t.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img716/2218/icn1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/7892/pzma.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/9471/z7sl.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/8086/vuza.jpg

I forgot to take picture of ARP studs, and supertech valve train kit is at Urge Designs.

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/8793/vbpp.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img839/5455/x1ua.jpg

BC Stage 2 Cams. I will use them first, and wait for Urge Designs ones.

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/7462/9vg6.jpg

ITBS (they are amazing)

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/9679/h37q.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/8109/kabb.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/9566/z1h9.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img833/7838/rh0j.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/5198/lkxf.jpg

Fidanza Flywheel

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/1857/fdoe.jpg


Haltech ECU and Dash

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/5506/h...epakdashlt.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/3417/h...cepakdashl.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img832/3417/h...cepakdashl.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/3417/h...cepakdashl.jpg


Waiting the head, rods, pistons and sleeves, already ordered and searching for a F22C crank in very good condition. After i will give the parts and engine for my engine builder and will buy the other parts, slowly =(

Vilela 12-30-2013 03:13 AM

some photos of the engine in the car, the oïl pan and mounts:

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/7431/i0bi.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/3080/4le6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/8042/p6h0.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/5206/vmxw.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/3484/efvn.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img690/2651/jyh6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/9335/xtvp.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/1430/53u6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9876/v6zk.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/6623/wj1m.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2438/n8t0.jpg

MB 12-30-2013 02:09 PM

Looks interesting. Are you sending the whole engine to Urge?

s2000Junky 12-30-2013 10:56 PM

Welcome Vilela :) Looks like a nice engine build you have for yourself with ITB's and all, and it should move the car nicely :thumbup: I'm running 89mm pistons as well, if you didn't know these with the standard F22 crank will up the displacement .1, so you could call it an F23.

Vilela 12-31-2013 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by MB (Post 22943542)
Looks interesting. Are you sending the whole engine to Urge?


No, i bought the parts and Patrick help me to chose the parts.

I wanted to buy the all engine packadge, but i needed to send my engine, pay the shiping costs and taxes, and after, pay the shiping costs to switzerland and the taxes again, to expensive =(

But i hope to get very close hp numbers, my fear is the headers, this engines are to sensitive to headers change, but i will see what i can do.

Vilela 12-31-2013 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by s2000Junky (Post 22943906)
Welcome Vilela :) Looks like a nice engine build you have for yourself with ITB's and all, and it should move the car nicely :thumbup: I'm running 89mm pistons as well, if you didn't know these with the standard F22 crank will up the displacement .1, so you could call it an F23.


Thanks :)


In the end my car will weight aproximatelly 900 kg, its more than enought, even with a oem f22c was enought =)

Yes, i knew that f23c question, i did some research, i was thinking to buy a f24c stroker kit, but i prefer more reliability, thats why i chosed this "f23c" build.

Reckon 12-31-2013 04:43 AM

Looks like an awesome build!

Vilela 01-29-2014 10:23 AM

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/401/ja7m.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/801/1rew.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/594/iyug.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/853/8vbz.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...90/62/a67q.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/841/4v22.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/823/5qjv.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/607/diei.jpg


I will not use the aluminium crank pulley from the kit, i prefer to use the Fluidampr, but i couldnt buy the other 2 pulleys alone.

Waiting for the rods, head and pistons from Patrick and still searching for a dealler to sell me a new crankshaft for a good price.


After i can give the engine to be built =)

Vilela 02-04-2014 05:58 AM

Few more parts.

Urge Designs full head work with welded chambers + Supertech Valve Train Kit (H1021D)

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/547/kxlz.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/703/fv6x.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...90/200/ssa.JPG


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/845/odut.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...90/32/8n1w.JPG


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/836/8h39.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/513/8ojs.jpg



And a great detail:

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/163/aww4.jpg




Crower Rods

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/203/gvxj.jpg



Urge Designs Custom Pistons


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/541/krqs.jpg


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/560/51l0.jpg




Mishimoto 60°C Thermostat


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/80...0/822/d28h.jpg


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