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JUSTINTHECOASTIE 02-23-2011 10:35 AM

F22c in AP1
 
Whats up guys, I finally got my first tune today. For those of you that dont know my "set-up" it's nothing special. In fact, it's only average, however, the factor that makes it unique is that it's MY first dyno tune. Thanks John from LHT!!! With his accent and boyish charm, John made my first time I mean tune a big deal....to me hahahaha no homo
Enough small talk on to the "business"....
I have a F22c in my AP1(2005 F22c engine with K&N drop-in and hondata intake heatshield, LHT custom test pipe, AP1 clutch/flywheel AP1 2003 ECU, AP1 2003 transmission, and AP1 diff) tuned with Apexi VAFC 2, tuner was John from LHT Performance
Today, on the first pull, I made 192whp untuned. I cant remember the torque number sorry, please understand I was too excited....Ive "heard" that when doing the F22c swap into a AP1, particularly the 2002-03 models,you should/need to either A:purchase an AP1 2001 ECU w/VAFC or B:purchase VAFC. From what I gathered from previous threads on the F22c Swap, you need the older richer(00-01) AP1 ECU because the newer (02-03) AP1 ECU's run leaner. Well today, that fact was incorrect, in fact I was rich very rich multi-million dollar rich @ WOT(I'm RICH B****...rich) Every car is different I guess....moving on....
Final numbers ended up being 224.73whp and 156.66wtq on the dynojet

http://i52.tinypic.com/e66sfa.jpg
Before tune
http://i52.tinypic.com/nlva0o.jpg
After tuning
http://i56.tinypic.com/2rwb3bp.jpg

Thanks guys :tip wink:

Update: Installed and running Hondata Kpro with 60mm test pipe currently on AP1 basemap

deepbluejh 02-23-2011 10:39 AM

Those are great numbers for an F22c.

JUSTINTHECOASTIE 02-23-2011 10:56 AM

Thanks man

EVAN&MONICA 02-23-2011 12:40 PM

:heart: The gearing is great :thumbup: when you match the F22 and the AP1 tranny I hear. Very nice numbers as well

JUSTINTHECOASTIE 02-23-2011 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by EVAN&MONICA,Feb 23 2011, 01:40 PM
:heart: The gearing is great :thumbup: when you match the F22 and the AP1 tranny I hear. Very nice numbers as well

Thanks man
Ive also heard good things about a F20 with AP2 gearing, but I havent seen anything in person :shrug:

EVAN&MONICA 02-23-2011 12:56 PM

:ponder: what are you revving to?
Looks like about 8300?

JUSTINTHECOASTIE 02-23-2011 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by EVAN&MONICA,Feb 23 2011, 01:56 PM
:ponder: what are you revving to?
Looks like about 8300?

It can go to 8.6k easily and take it no problem, however, around 8.3k-about 8.4k is peak curve, from there it slowly drops

H22toF20 02-23-2011 01:39 PM

Great numbers, especially sense this is using a VAFC.

The first pull is VERY rich and choppy. The final tune looks great but it still seems to be a little on the rich side. I wanna see how an EMS would compare.

JUSTINTHECOASTIE 02-23-2011 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by H22toF20,Feb 23 2011, 02:39 PM
Great numbers, especially sense this is using a VAFC.

The first pull is VERY rich and choppy. The final tune looks great but it still seems to be a little on the rich side. I wanna see how an EMS would compare.

I wanted it to be a safe tune 12.8 aint too bad ;) this has also started more questions in my mind like what if I had EMS (more control more to gain)

H22toF20 02-23-2011 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by JUSTINTHECOASTIE,Feb 23 2011, 03:25 PM
I wanted it to be a safe tune 12.8 aint too bad ;) this has also started more questions in my mind like what if I had EMS (more control more to gain)

It looks closer to 12:1 in spots; sorry I'm a perfectionist. I'm sure being able to control timing and fuel independently would be nice :)


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