Well with Clinicals and the last round of school coming up there isn't any way I can get my AP1 boosted until well after August. I have settled in on the idea of nitrous and I'm watching a kit on eBay right now. I will be using a direct port kit as I feel this is by far the safest option in the world of Giggle Gas. This is by no means my first Bottle fed car but it is the first one that will have an APEXi tune on it. Does anyone have any experience with this type of setup? It should be around a 75 shot. Tell me what you think

 

There's nothing that you can use a NEO for to tune for nitrous. All MAP altering piggy-backs are totally useless for adding fuel to Hondas. You'll need to get a fully capable EMS, or get a wet kit.

 

1) I know the Neo can't tune nitrous thats not what I was asking. I was referring to the fact that for all motor power it will more than likely be leaned out a bit on the WOT tune.
2)If they are all useless why do the add proven power and smooth out the power bands for Honda? I remember when an SAFC was the only option other than a Haltech(and who could afford that in High School) to tune with electronically and an FMU was mechanical
3) I do not have time to sink into a Full EMS hence the reason I am getting a NEO. I'll be using an HKS F-Con when I do boost
4) I am getting a direct port kit why would I want to down grade to a Wet kit?

Not trying to be an ass and thanks for your input anyway

 

Your wasting your money with the neo if your running nitrous. It might give you a few N/A horses but it will advance your timing and thats a no no for nitrous on an s2k with a piggy back.

 

do you know what a wet kit is? or for that matter a direct port?

direct port is 1 FOGGER in each runner of the intake manifold delivering both fuel and nitrous through the fogger. thus, it is "wet" nitrous.

SAFC's and such dont add fuel. they lean it out. thus why they cant really be used or useful in this situation.

nitrous wet kits are "mechanically" tuned through the replacement of the fuel jet. My typical rule of thumb is whatever the chart tells you to jet the fuel, jet 1-2pts richer and run a step colder plugs.


not to be a dick, but it really doesnt sound like you know what you are doing. although you state this isnt your first "bottle fed car" did you do the install and tuning of the jets and such or did you pay a shop to do it?

 

yeah you really are coming off like a dick. I had a complete Edlebrock Direct Port kit on a built Type R, and by direct port I mean a Nozzle for each runner of the intake manifold measured back 1 inch off the Plenum. I also used an Edlebrock Digital progressive controller to ramp the nitrous and fuel based on time and it reset at 50% after each gear(Reset was based on the WOT switch being released and then replaced with the next gear shift). The car I sold to buy my S2000 was a fully built and boosted 95 Civic hatch, Nonvtec B18B w/ Crower 404 cams, Holset HX35 Charger and it was tuned on an AEM EMS 1040 U, It made 469HP and 321 Lbs/Ft. I did not tune the AEM because I am no go with tuning so in that sense yes I paid someone for the tune. EVERYTHING else I did Myself in my garage...even the Paint job on my hatch which turned out pretty damn good after a few wet sandings and buffs. I understand that the NEO is a Piggy Back my question wasn't whether it would make 1000 HP with a Wet kit it was how do the NEO and Nitrous work together, As in, bad idea because of ignition advancement and overall piggy back situation or is it possible to work together.

 

how is anyone supposed to glean that from your first statement. Im glad your paint job gave you a lot of nitrous experience. IN YOUR GARAGE.


not knowing that a NEO doesnt add fuel and other things like "why would i use a wet kit when i have a direct port" make you sound like an idiot.

so go use both and make 1000 hp.

while you're at it, go bleed some JDM, whatever the **** that means.

 

lol the OP didnt ask you for any of this. He didn't say anything regarding lack of knowledge with nitrous.

 

personally i would get rid of the apexi neo. all it does is lean the car out a little bit and with a 75 shot im sure you can deal with the 3whp power loss. less chance of detonation.

 

Direct port is 1 FOGGER in each runner of the intake manifold delivering both fuel and nitrous through the fogger. thus it is "wet" nitrous ...........you just told me what kind of car guy you are with that statement. IBleedJDM is my screen name and it means pretty much what yours does, absolutely nothing, except that I was creative enough to come up with mine and yours came from a Mad Max movie or possibly a bad rap song.

Everyone else thanks for the authentic help and Juiceds2k it looks to me like you love the giggle gas lol thanks for the info