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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Thank you jackhare for finding that, I knew it was out there somewhere
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Wow, I learned something about how the transmission works. Cool. I never knew skipping a gear here and there mattered, but I can see how over time this may add up to wear and tear on a specific part of the transmission.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gernby
Thanks for posting the info! I tried finding that post from Woodwork, but couldn't. Do you have a link to that thread he started? He is not a Honda Mechanic. He is a Honda Engineer. Whenever there were "out of the ordinary" warranty repairs, the defective parts were / are sent to him for inspection.

Froth, the transmission wouldn't "care" if you replaced its oil with water.
Yes it would! it would get hot, turn the water to steam and generally destroy it. I'd care if I got destroyed! I am using the word "Care" to simplify a longer definition of what I am explaining in that the transmission is unable to think for itself thus it cannot differentiate what gear it is coming from thus making skip shifting completely possible if done "correctly".
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gernby
Thanks for posting the info! I tried finding that post from Woodwork, but couldn't. Do you have a link to that thread he started? He is not a Honda Mechanic. He is a Honda Engineer. Whenever there were "out of the ordinary" warranty repairs, the defective parts were / are sent to him for inspection.

Froth, the transmission wouldn't "care" if you replaced its oil with water.
Gernby,

I could not find the original post. The link I provided was the best I could find:

http://www.standardshift.com/forum/v...hp?f=6&t=13489

The "Woodwork" entry is embedded in the second post down from the top.


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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gernby
I damaged the 5th gear synchro in my '90 Integra by accellerating to redline in 2nd, then shifting straight to 5th.
i used to do the same exact thing on my 90 teg.....but that was because 3rd gear grinded like a mofo just like all integras
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Hand Banana...NOOOOO!!!
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Froth.
Hand Banana...NOOOOO!!!
Froth, what are you talking about?
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FluKy15
Thank you jackhare for finding that, I knew it was out there somewhere
FluKy15,

I'm glad I could help.


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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Froth.
As I have said MANY times, the transmission DOES NOT CARE what gear it comes from...It has no idea what gear was before the one that has just been selected the ONLY thing the transmission cares about is how much it has to make the Synchro's work in order for the gear change to occur. Shifting properly, even skip-shifting properly will NOT HARM THE TRANSMISSION. Just shifting the car IMPROPERLY through the normal 1-2-3-4-5-6 can create BOATLOADS of wear and there's no discussion on that because it's all chalked up to the driver and their habits. If you make it a habit to ensure the transmission sees as little wear as humanly possible then shift however you like...
I agree. As long as you're not pushing the limits (i.e. redlining), I don't think skipshifting necessarily poses any more risk to a transmission than when shifting sequentially through all the gears. However, I now see how jumping gears can potentially damage synchronizers when high RPMs are involved.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 07:35 AM
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I think there are two key things: 1. double clutch to minimize wear on synchros 2. DON'T FORCE THE SHIFTER INTO GEAR. If you've ever tried driving clutchless, the shifter will practically fall into gear when all the speeds match up. If you're going to skip shift from 4th to 6th without a double clutch, then you have to be patient and not just force it into gear which wears the synchros. You'll find that when all the speeds match up, the shifter will fall right in. It's somewhat like clutchless shifting on a motorcycle. Apply LIGHT pressure (LIGHT! use finese) on the shifter and it'll just click into the next gear when the speeds match.
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