2011 Nasa TT/PT Hardtop rule
Originally Posted by GT Motoring,Dec 20 2010, 11:41 AM
haha, yea. I did think that it may look odd that i posted in this.... Its all in my master plan that you all now NEED my roof..... muhahahahah!
I wish i was that smart to have thought of that...
I wish i was that smart to have thought of that...
I emailed the director about mugen sounds like the best he will do is give it points so at least people who have it can run.
Originally Posted by dan_uk,Dec 20 2010, 12:05 PM
can u make a cheap OEM knockoff out of something?
I emailed the director about mugen sounds like the best he will do is give it points so at least people who have it can run.
I emailed the director about mugen sounds like the best he will do is give it points so at least people who have it can run.
Used OEM roofs seem to be around 2k price ready to install no?
Greg (GT Motoring), the other day I was looking for your thread from a while back about the lexan rear for the OEM. I thought someone there already asked you to just make the top too but out of FRP.
Let's see what NASA has to say about how many points the top is worth.
Let's see what NASA has to say about how many points the top is worth.
Originally Posted by Liquidsation,Dec 20 2010, 01:45 PM
Greg, the other day I was looking for your thread from a while back about the lexan rear for the OEM. I thought someone there already asked you to just make the top too but out of FRP.
Let's see what NASA has to say about how many points the top is worth.
Let's see what NASA has to say about how many points the top is worth.
Originally Posted by dan_uk,Dec 20 2010, 03:05 PM
can u make a cheap OEM knockoff out of something?
I emailed the director about mugen sounds like the best he will do is give it points so at least people who have it can run.
I emailed the director about mugen sounds like the best he will do is give it points so at least people who have it can run.
I can see the Spoon or Spoon-style thing, however, ZERO thought was given to the banning of non-oem tops. Complete stupidity, and I am not concerned with Greg seeing this.
Fact: Convertibles are classed just as other cars are.
Fact: Convertibles must run top down here in the Mid-A
Fact: A hardtop may be added at no add'l points
WTF? So running a brick of a car like the S2000 topdown is the same as running the same brick with an oem hardtop? Yeah... they're the same.
The difference between running top down and running a hardtop is greater than running an OEM top and a Spoon one.But instead of assessing points, let's not put any thought into it. Let's just ban other tops. Pathetic. Do like Honda Challenge did at least. They handicapped the S2000 almost to the point where few participate in the series because the rules. Time has lessened the disparity between the S2000 and other body/motor combos because time has shown the inequality.
My suggestion: do the same with the hardtop. Assess the piss out of it initially and lessen the severity as conditions permit. Banning is NOT the answer.
Add'lly, +10 pts was mentioned by Greg in the NASA thread. Really? A Spoon-style hardtop is that much superior to the OEM style that it warrants the same penalty as a Hoosier R6 over a street tire? Really? Does that make sense to everyone? Anyone? Having run the oem top and the Shine-craft one and having run RE-01R's and R6's, I can tell you without a doubt that the realized difference between the two scenarios isn't even effin close.
Skip
Originally Posted by Liquidsation,Dec 20 2010, 04:45 PM
Greg, the other day I was looking for your thread from a while back about the lexan rear for the OEM. I thought someone there already asked you to just make the top too but out of FRP.
Let's see what NASA has to say about how many points the top is worth.
Let's see what NASA has to say about how many points the top is worth.
PS. My Shinecraft top was 14lbs fully assembled, thereby making IT the lightest top for the S2000. 
The greatest advantage of the Shinecraft top is weight reduction in both total weight and weight distribution, not aero.

The greatest advantage of the Shinecraft top is weight reduction in both total weight and weight distribution, not aero.
Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Dec 20 2010, 02:17 PM
Rob, where did you see Greg entertaining points for the Mugen -style tops?
I can't see how the mugen top would help more than removing the wipers and mirrors
I wanted to get the top for weight realy but I guess I'll have to find something else to pull out.. $2500 for 25lbs is not a good trade
Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Dec 20 2010, 02:22 PM
PS. My Shinecraft top was 14lbs fully assembled, thereby making IT the lightest top for the S2000. 
The greatest advantage of the Shinecraft top is weight reduction in both total weight and weight distribution, not aero.

The greatest advantage of the Shinecraft top is weight reduction in both total weight and weight distribution, not aero.
I'm going to make one special for my time attack car thats so light it will double as a tissue.
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