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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CKit
I run a 235/255 stagger on OEM wheels in a star spec. Why would you buy aftermarket wheels that cripple your performance?
Ignorant statement. No competitive s2000 with competitive driver would say this.

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Originally Posted by b_wong' timestamp='1328028663' post='21369531
Thanks for all the input. I was told by some s2k guys that +45 offset was not that bad and alot track guys run the RPF1's with 17x9 +45. Is that right? Anyone running that set up here?
There are a lot of hard parking S2000 drivers that will give you advice. You have to consider the source. I don't remember seeing you ask the question here.I don't think there are very many hard core track guys with +45 RPF1s. Are you sure you didn't mis-hear them talking about the PF01 (higher offset)?You have to make the distinction: Are you in it for show or go?
Many of the Best S2000 racers/TTers Run Non Staggered 17x9 +45 to 17x9 +35 with Many Track records to prove it.
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Track= Competitive event

Originally Posted by b_wong
thanks guys, I think I definitely got some bad advice, should've came here first. Sounds like the widest I should go is 245/40/17 to keep from needing to flare/pull the front fenders or make a dumb compromise and go with 235/40/17...
Do what suits you best for your "Track" goals, take the majority of these replies as friendly jabber. If you want specific advice, try to be very specific for what your going to do with the car exactly, to help weed out the misconceptions of each person of what they think fast is.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bsyeth
Originally Posted by CKit' timestamp='1327987429' post='21368206
I run a 235/255 stagger on OEM wheels in a star spec. Why would you buy aftermarket wheels that cripple your performance?
Ignorant statement. No competitive s2000 with competitive driver would say this.
He's talking about a very specific application. Running offset wheels and then compromising the tire choice to fit the offset wheels.

I'm not talking about people who run wider +45 wheels to run a wider tire setup and have a wider track.

He won't pull or flare fenders. Read in context.

So to your ignorant statement.

Please tell me what great +45 drivers run without a fender roll or pull. And what great +45 drivers run a 235 street tire square when given unlimited wheel and tire choice.

(EDIT: Rereading your statement and not seeing you post here very much, maybe you totally missed what I was saying. Did you think that I meant that OEM is better than ANY aftermarket wheel? I'm neither that simplistic nor that much of a fanboi. Me = owns 3 sets of 18x11 CCWs, 18x9 Ultraleggeras, 2 sets of 17" Aleggerittas, etc. I mentioned OEM for the sake of offset in the context of someone who bought wheels that don't fit his goals and having to compromise rubber worse than if he hadn't modded at all).
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Here's the translation for Brian Yorks:

Originally Posted by CKit
I can run a 235/255 stagger on the stock OEM wheels using the same brand and model tires you want to run. You picked a specific aftermarket wheel with not enough offset for your personal goals if you do not want to modify your bodywork. You are correct stating that you will rub on your bodywork if you run a 255 square Star Spec with those relatively low offset aftermarket wheels. If you do not want to run less rubber than you could have on your OEM wheels (235/255) while still retaining pristine bodywork, then you may have to pick up different aftermarket wheels with higher offset.
I'm guessing he thought I was saying something like this?
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ZOMG!!! I LOVE HONDAAAAAS! OEM WHEELS ARE DA BOMB. ALL OTHERS ARE SUCKA WHEELS THAT CRIPPLE YO MAD VTEC! MY OEM WINZ OVR U!"

By the way, our SCCA Club Racing car is a "showroom stock B" Civic SI. Only OEM wheels allowed in class. How's that for irony?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cracknut
Yeah, if you want to run 235s drop down to an 8" wheel and save weight.
9" wheels still put more rubber on the ground and generate more traction. To the OP, you have the wrong wheels IMO. Sell them to a NC Miata owner, as it's one of the best wheels for them. I'm spoiled w/ 255/255 rubber, and would have a hard time going back to something else. Just don't forget to make other suspension changes - my car was very tailhappy when I only had the square setup before making other changes (primarily stiffer front swaybar settings).
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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^^^ Agreed. I think a square 255 setup is just about perfect on track for a normally aspirated S2000. Get whatever wheels or pull whatever bodywork you need to get there (if going fast is your goal).
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris S
Originally Posted by cracknut' timestamp='1327988510' post='21368254
Yeah, if you want to run 235s drop down to an 8" wheel and save weight.
9" wheels still put more rubber on the ground and generate more traction. To the OP, you have the wrong wheels IMO. Sell them to a NC Miata owner, as it's one of the best wheels for them. I'm spoiled w/ 255/255 rubber, and would have a hard time going back to something else. Just don't forget to make other suspension changes - my car was very tailhappy when I only had the square setup before making other changes (primarily stiffer front swaybar settings).
Yes, that's probably true for most tires. Heck, I ran 255s on 9.5" wheels and the fit was perfect when the car was in ITE.

But for 2012 I'm competing in STU and the class rules dictate a 17x8 wheel so I'm limited in tire selection.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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Thanks for everyone's input.

I'm not a tt'er or club racer (yet), just doing driving schools and having fun.

I'm going to go for the fender roll to try to fit 245's square (hopefully they the slightly thinner width vs. 255's will be ok without a fender pull).
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