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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Is it a fair assumption to say that the real S2000 curb weights without driver are inline with the AP1 manufacture spec of 2811lbs and AP2 spec of 2835lbs?
However, this is a little bit of an issue for me concerning car classification and my current racing rule book. In order to fit into the class I feel the car will be competitive; I'm looking for a target curb weight of 3035, so an addition of 224lbs over AP1 spec.

This weight needs to be taken without driver and in "race trim", with full fluids. Some items to gain the weight I'm looking for include:

AP1 base - 2811
Hardtop - 40-60lbs
Roll bar (including AFT bracing, harness bar, diagonal) - 60lbs
Trailer Hitch - 30lbs

It seems this only puts the car around the low 2900's......hmmmm, still too light. So my question is, is it possible to get a 3035lbs S2000 without adding ballast or spending money on silly stuff (skirts, stereo, etc)??

BTW, an additional question, what is the heaviest hard top for the S2000? I would guess OE but any other idea's?




PS, yes, this is actually a series question.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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One more thing, I
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Obviously you will be running ballast. This is just a weight penalty for competition purposes. SCCA seems deathly afraid of the S2000's potential to dominate its class.

Why would you want to put the weight into the hardtop (high CG) rather than ballast (low CG)?
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Are you planning to turn it into a track beast (racing seats, etc.)? The racing rules I race under don't allow a passenger seat in a race, so you may need to deal with that. But, of course, you can bolt "ballast" to the passenger side floor, which gets you as much weight as you want, and low.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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I agree that it would be a preferable solution however ballast, as in bolt in lead would be against the spirit of the rules.


Is the SCCA really afraid anymore? Isn't it stuck in T2 against the Sti
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 124Spider,Feb 28 2007, 08:12 PM
Are you planning to turn it into a track beast (racing seats, etc.)? The racing rules I race under don't allow a passenger seat in a race, so you may need to deal with that. But, of course, you can bolt "ballast" to the passenger side floor, which gets you as much weight as you want, and low.
No, the car will be used for mainly street duty and SOLO 1 (not SCCA) domination.
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what auto-x series requires that sort of weight? and why would you want a heavy hard top? Thats the absolutely worst place for putting weight (up high).

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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[QUOTE=Racin,Feb 28 2007, 08:16 PM] Is the SCCA really afraid anymore? Isn't it stuck in T2 against the Sti
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Racin,Feb 28 2007, 08:16 PM
I agree that it would be a preferable solution however ballast, as in bolt in lead would be against the spirit of the rules.
What?! What "spirit of the rules"?

It's not like you are drilling lightening holes into the fram so that you can put more of your weight into ballast. This is just a rule that point blank calls out penalty weight. Ballast is perfectly appropriate.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Yes, penalty ballast is the whole point of the rule.



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