Alignment Suggestions for ButtonWillow
It is an ongoing argument if u should cw or align first. One affects the other. But ipersonally would agree with Dino and do cw first.
Cw does not dictate ride heigts. U can raise all corners 5" or front only and still have 50/50 cw. Ride height is a lot more complicated. It has to do with unbolting suspension and also run on track with a zip tie around damper shaft.
It is also a must that u have adjustable end link to do cw.
One important note is to pick a good shop to do cw. Many shops are lazy. I'd ur right and left sideride height differs by more than 0.25". I say find a different shop. Westend is very reputable. Let's say u decide to lower rr/lf 1/2" to offset 100lb. Lazy way is to do exactly that. Proper and more time consuming way is to lower rr/lf 1/4" and raise lr/rf 1/4".
Cw does not dictate ride heigts. U can raise all corners 5" or front only and still have 50/50 cw. Ride height is a lot more complicated. It has to do with unbolting suspension and also run on track with a zip tie around damper shaft.
It is also a must that u have adjustable end link to do cw.
One important note is to pick a good shop to do cw. Many shops are lazy. I'd ur right and left sideride height differs by more than 0.25". I say find a different shop. Westend is very reputable. Let's say u decide to lower rr/lf 1/2" to offset 100lb. Lazy way is to do exactly that. Proper and more time consuming way is to lower rr/lf 1/4" and raise lr/rf 1/4".
Originally Posted by Antonov,Dec 30 2009, 09:17 PM
Yes, every time you change your ride height, your camber and toe will change. Your best bet is to find a place that has alignment plans.
My place has a $110 3 year unlimited deal. You can go every week if you wanted to. I sit in the car when getting alignment.
-Dino
My place has a $110 3 year unlimited deal. You can go every week if you wanted to. I sit in the car when getting alignment.
-Dino
Originally Posted by nichigo,Dec 31 2009, 02:46 PM
I misunderstood this statement...it sounded like you said to have a good alignment/ride height before the corner weight.
You should weigh and then align.
Ideally you should do 2 alignments, one before an one after.
A guy who used to race karts recommended that I try some toe out up front for better turn in and less toe in in the rear for some more oversteer. I didn't really want to give up the rear stability with more toe out, but I thought I'd give it a try. And as far as the front toe out, has anybody else ever tried it or have any knowledge about it? The car handled very loose on the track that weekend but I was able to control it.
I could feel the rear rotating on nearly every corner and it felt really nice.
I could feel the rear rotating on nearly every corner and it felt really nice.
Originally Posted by samsam5886,Dec 31 2009, 09:23 PM
Performance Speed Tech recommended that I try some toe out up front for better turn in. And as far as the front toe out, has anybody else ever tried it or have any knowledge about it?
I wouldn't say that it won't help on the track, only that it'll only help at corner entry. I'm a bit puzzled why you're trying to get the car to rotate more since it's already "very loose" per your description, but for what it's worth, which part of the corner do you want to loosen up? If it's corner entry, give front toe-out a try; if it's mid-corner or corner exit, then it's not going to help you.
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