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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sirbunz,Dec 25 2009, 08:47 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience. What about for auto-x? Not as much heat compared to track days, etc. I wonder because of the OEM JDM BBS wheels that so many have used for this purpose. Would you worry about buying wheels that have been auto-xed on for "x" amount of year?

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Well you don't reach the speeds or the high heat range that you would on race track, but I would always inspect the wheels for any cracks. Which means cleaning the brake dust off after or before every event and really giving the wheel a once over. If you see a crack anywhere on the wheel, it has been my experience that it is pretty serious. The wheel is trash! A wheel falling off a car at 50 or 60 at an autocross is still going to do some serious damage. Then comes the problem of getting home.

Always err on the side of safety !!
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Just to give an update on this. I spoke with the owner of the wheels from the first post yesterday and they were powder coated. After the incident he had the others stripped down and inspected them and found one more that had a pretty serious crack developing in it.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Ha Ha! Called it
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KrazyKarim,Jan 7 2010, 12:43 PM
Just to give an update on this. I spoke with the owner of the wheels from the first post yesterday and they were powder coated. After the incident he had the others stripped down and inspected them and found one more that had a pretty serious crack developing in it.
Glad you saw him as I won't see him until the end of February.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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We were talking about this in the North Tx forum and DonJ posted this. I think It is some good info so I am posting it here.



"I did some research and came up with the following information:

The Aluminum Association Inc. describes it this way: Heating aluminum alloys above 275°F causes granular rearrangement of the metallurgical structure resulting in a significant change of bulk properties. Essentially meaning, the tensile strength of the metal is dramatically lowered.

Aluminum billet material and/or alloys change crystal structure at about 410°F. The crystalline realignment at 410°F causes the previous ductile aluminum to become brittle; thus the cases of powdercoated wheels shattering under stress.

Peak substrate temperatures for aluminum should be below 300°F--ideally 275°F."
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rjones,Apr 14 2010, 07:51 AM
We were talking about this in the North Tx forum and DonJ posted this. I think It is some good info so I am posting it here.

That article with it's unsupported reference was linked earlier in the thread .
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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oop's, It's been a while since I read the entire thread.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Voodoo_S2K,Apr 14 2010, 08:18 AM
unsupported reference
Yes, who cares about science when you can just listen to what Voodoo_S2K tells you instead?

Good thread (except for a momentary diversion into the merits of putting racing stripes on a Mustang): http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums...ead.php?t=5368
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster,Apr 14 2010, 08:43 AM
Yes, who cares about science when you can just listen to what Voodoo_S2K tells you instead?
I was wondering how long it would take you to make that comment.

I offer zero scientific evidence, only observation such as all of the cracking of aluminum engine blocks and calipers.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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How DO you prepare a wheel before painting if glass blasting is not ok?
Sanding?
Remove the paint with paint stripper?

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