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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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I know nothing about that kit (or any other, for that matter). But I can change tires, pads and rotors all around in a half hour or less without difficulty, so I don't see much advantage to any "labor-saving" kit. I put the race pads in at my leisure at home, and drive to the track with them on the car, towing my tire trailer.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 124Spider,Sep 7 2007, 01:07 PM
I know nothing about that kit (or any other, for that matter). But I can change tires, pads and rotors all around in a half hour or less without difficulty, so I don't see much advantage to any "labor-saving" kit. I put the race pads in at my leisure at home, and drive to the track with them on the car, towing my tire trailer.
Ray can change pads in about 30 seconds with no tools (not counting the time it takes to pull the wheels off). It is an advantage.

I don't know anything else about the tradeoffs involved, though.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 7 2007, 01:46 PM
Ray can change pads in about 30 seconds with no tools (not counting the time it takes to pull the wheels off). It is an advantage.

I don't know anything else about the tradeoffs involved, though.
Wow, that is impressive! One does wonder what tradeoffs are involved, however.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by trivium,Sep 7 2007, 12:06 PM
Actually- for the $850 it costs- there is one HUGE performance gain you can acquire from buying these. With the 4 pot kit you shed 28 or so pounds of unsprung weight. Need I say more?
Yes brake mass is where the heat goes. So a lighter system can actually not be up the task to repeated hard use.

And sure you can change pads quicker, which is nice because you usually have to change them more often since many of the calipers use smaller pads than stock.

If you don't count removing the wheel you can replace the front oem pad in 1 minute no problem.

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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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if you absolutely have top spend money i would get the stoptech stage two kit with SLOTTED rotors, NEVER drilled
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by krazik,Sep 7 2007, 02:01 PM
If you don't count removing the wheel you can replace the front oem pad in 1 minute no problem.
But not without tools. And not the rears.

(I use the OEM calipers and rotors.)
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by krazik,Sep 7 2007, 02:01 PM
Yes brake mass is where the heat goes. So a lighter system can actually not be up the task to repeated hard use.

And sure you can change pads quicker, which is nice because you usually have to change them more often since many of the calipers use smaller pads than stock.

If you don't count removing the wheel you can replace the front oem pad in 1 minute no problem.

-Ry
I dont know why you bring up mass when the brake rotor from the 4 pot kit is LARGER than an oem rotor. Also, the brake pad on the 4 pot kit utilizes a bigger pad than our oem pads.











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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Spoon calipers are a good option for a slight upgrade over stock, and you can still retain use of OEM pads and rotors.

I would try some stainless lines, and upgraded pads first if you are still newer to the track. They will make a big difference.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by trivium,Sep 7 2007, 03:31 PM
I dont know why you bring up mass when the brake rotor from the 4 pot kit is LARGER than an oem rotor. Also, the brake pad on the 4 pot kit utilizes a bigger pad than our oem pads.











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explain to me how you can say something is lighter but not have less mass?

Physical dimensions have nothing to do with either.

And the pad IIRC is smaller than oem.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyraid2K,Sep 7 2007, 01:09 PM
if you absolutely have top spend money i would get the stoptech stage two kit with SLOTTED rotors, NEVER drilled
uhm no.

Never either. They both are way more proned to cracking.
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