Hi All,

In researching how best to use my allotted NASA TT points to stay in TTC, I was reading up on point free mods and noticed that camber points were included in the list. I had thought about SPC joints, but if I can get the same camber adjustment without having to use points, then the Camber Plates are the way to go.

Is anyone one running them besides ones that came with your coilovers. In my short google search, the only ones I could find were cusco ones. Are there any downsides to camber plates vs. camber joints? I'd love to hear your input.

Thanks

 

Camber plates are for strut suspension setups only. The spindle is attached directly to the strut and the strut attached to the chassis through the top hat/camber plate, therefore the strut determines the camber angle. On our double A-arm front suspension setup, the shock has nothing to do with camber. That's all in the A-arms and the ball joints that connect them to the spindle.

 

The S2000 purposely got screwed in the NASA rule book on camber adjustment. Ball joints that simply add camber SHOULD be a 0 point mod like cars with struts and camber plates. As speed racer said camber plates no worky.

 

Yeah, I'm sure they did that sspecifically to hose the S2000. All those other non-strut cars will just have to suffer because NASA wanted to screw us.

 

ortho, are you familiar with what happened with this NASA ruling? It appears you aren't.

 

He must be BFFs with Greg Greenbaum. Well, that sucks to know that camber plates won't work. I'm currently at 20 points the way my car sits (taking 5 for Mugen rep HT :fawk. Looking to sell the HT to buy an OEM and use the points on a wing. Probably going to take the KW V3s off at some point in favor of something without a reservoir (why do we have to take all the points when the stock rears have them?), go back to stock intake, and get an OE exhaust again. RIP money.

 

How many extra points do you take for suspension with external reservoir shocks? Is it really enough that it's worth it to run suspension that doesn't have it?

 

If you're considering NASA TT then it "probably" is worth it to look for shocks without external reservoirs. I like the AST line of shocks.

 

I guess if you want to be technical about it, J's and Hardrace camber kits are plates, because they offset the balljoint via geometry of the ball joint mount. The balljoint isn't adjustable. Call me lawyerly, but it's a plate, with a hole that affects your camber by mounting between the knuckle and the lower control arm via the ball joint.

 

There's a 4 point difference between shocks with and without external reservoirs.

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The balljoint isn't adjustable

"Alteration of ball joints/dive angles +2"


Nothing about adjustable in the rules. When you read the "free mods" section of the PT/TT rules it sounds like our camber mods would be point free, but they got us with this rule.