carbotech pad choice
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carbotech pad choice
I've heard people talk about running XP10s in the front and XP8s in the rear. Any particular reason why? Is it a bias thing or is it just that they had problems with XP8 in the front?
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I don't think it has anything to do with bias. The only reason I can think of is expected operating temps. The XP10 has a higher range of allowable operating temps. I'd look up the exact numbers, but I can't get my browser to work properly on the Carbotech site.
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Straight from the Carbotech website:
XP10 (F=$158, R=$119)
- Max operating temp -> 1600F (no low range listed)
- Coefficient of friction -> well above 0.6 (their words)
XP8 (F=$147, R=$109)
- Operating temp range -> 250F to 1350F
- Coefficient of friction -> 0.58 to 0.6
So...it could be bias related I guess. XP8 rear set is only $10 cheaper than XP10, but may be more effective in a lower operating range.
XP10 (F=$158, R=$119)
- Max operating temp -> 1600F (no low range listed)
- Coefficient of friction -> well above 0.6 (their words)
XP8 (F=$147, R=$109)
- Operating temp range -> 250F to 1350F
- Coefficient of friction -> 0.58 to 0.6
So...it could be bias related I guess. XP8 rear set is only $10 cheaper than XP10, but may be more effective in a lower operating range.
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I have used XP10/XP8s. The XP10 is just overkill in the rear. The pads will work best in their ideal temp range and the 10s in front and 8 in back get pretty close to that. If you put 10 in back, they will not get as hot as the 10s in front so the 8 in the rear work better. Also, the frict. coeff. is pretty high on the 10s so in the rear it can cause premature lockup.
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Originally Posted by TubeDriver,Jun 19 2006, 08:48 AM
I have used XP10/XP8s. The XP10 is just overkill in the rear. The pads will work best in their ideal temp range and the 10s in front and 8 in back get pretty close to that. If you put 10 in back, they will not get as hot as the 10s in front so the 8 in the rear work better. Also, the frict. coeff. is pretty high on the 10s so in the rear it can cause premature lockup.
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Carbotech recommends a lesser pad in the back (to me anyway) so, there's no hint of the rear locking before the front. I believe they recommended XP10 F and Panther+ in the rear. I had no problems with that and no rear lockup issues even under braking heavy enough for the rear to get squirly.
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Originally Posted by Ek9,Jun 19 2006, 09:16 AM
Carbotech recommends a lesser pad in the back (to me anyway) so, there's no hint of the rear locking before the front. I believe they recommended XP10 F and Panther+ in the rear. I had no problems with that and no rear lockup issues even under braking heavy enough for the rear to get squirly.
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Originally Posted by CRDMS1,Jun 17 2006, 09:57 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with bias. The only reason I can think of is expected operating temps. The XP10 has a higher range of allowable operating temps. I'd look up the exact numbers, but I can't get my browser to work properly on the Carbotech site.
panther plus work fine for guys starting out or if you run street tires.
I love the carbotech's, work great, and I can live with the dust (hawk dust eats through wheels)