Which coilover for which application?
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Which coilover for which application?
(moved post here since someone suggested I would get a better response here)
I'm interested in getting coilovers. Prefer a setup that dials in slight oversteer that can easily be corrected by driver input, as opposed to needing other modifications to correct the oversteer from said oversteer-prone setup (not sure if that made sense or not).
Am I to understand that different coilover setups are geared toward different types of usage, such as some coilovers better for auto-x, some better for circuit types of tracks, etc?
My usage would be for daily driving (35 mile commute) as well as driving on drift tracks (1/month) and also at HPDE's (3-4/year).
I tried typing in "coilovers" in search, but it did not come up with anything to answer my query.
What recommendations do you guys have, and the reasons for your choice?
*key phrases - slight oversteer, daily drivability, hpde, drift
I'm interested in getting coilovers. Prefer a setup that dials in slight oversteer that can easily be corrected by driver input, as opposed to needing other modifications to correct the oversteer from said oversteer-prone setup (not sure if that made sense or not).
Am I to understand that different coilover setups are geared toward different types of usage, such as some coilovers better for auto-x, some better for circuit types of tracks, etc?
My usage would be for daily driving (35 mile commute) as well as driving on drift tracks (1/month) and also at HPDE's (3-4/year).
I tried typing in "coilovers" in search, but it did not come up with anything to answer my query.
What recommendations do you guys have, and the reasons for your choice?
*key phrases - slight oversteer, daily drivability, hpde, drift
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Originally Posted by JDM Baller,Dec 10 2004, 03:13 PM
I'm interested in getting coilovers. Prefer a setup that dials in slight oversteer that can easily be corrected by driver input, as opposed to needing other modifications to correct the oversteer from said oversteer-prone setup (not sure if that made sense or not).
My usage would be for daily driving (35 mile commute) as well as driving on drift tracks (1/month) and also at HPDE's (3-4/year).
My usage would be for daily driving (35 mile commute) as well as driving on drift tracks (1/month) and also at HPDE's (3-4/year).
I don't think I would want a car seriously set up for drifting as either a daily driver or a HPDE car. Your choice, but it seems like a questionable one.
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Dec 10 2004, 03:48 PM
Why not stock? The stock suspension is almost perfect for what you are describing. Maybe just a set of narrower rear tires or an adjustable front swaybar to help dial in oversteer for the drifting.
I don't think I would want a car seriously set up for drifting as either a daily driver or a HPDE car. Your choice, but it seems like a questionable one.
I don't think I would want a car seriously set up for drifting as either a daily driver or a HPDE car. Your choice, but it seems like a questionable one.
I guess I should perhaps re-state my intentions.... while I'd like the car to be setup to be driftable and hpde'able, I'm not implying that my car is to be hardcore dedicated to each.... surely there is some kind of setup (maybe it is more than just coilovers, or maybe not even coilovers at all), that will allow the car to be able to drift better than in stock form, but also handle decently enough to make it through some HPDE's.... coilovers, sway bars, those can be adjusted... something like narrower rear tires, cannot be adjusted (assuming no extra set of wheels).
Or perhaps I am just wanting too much.... I just feel like there must be some suspension setup out there that is compatible for drift and circuit.... and watching cars that run circuits, alot of them seem to have oversteer. I'm assuming they set it up like this to maintain high speed through the corners.
If I'm totally off the wall, someone out there educate me. I just feel that stock doesn't suit my personal tastes.
To WowS2k and pantyraider.... were you posts in any way helpful? Explain the meaning please...
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Originally Posted by payneinthe,Dec 10 2004, 08:34 PM
Mike is right on. The stock shocks are fantastic. Stiffer is not always better. Ask rev what he thinks about the cheap* coilovers he bought.
*cheap being a relative term
*cheap being a relative term
Are there certain springs you would recommend with the stock shocks? I doubt anybody that does any type of tracking (autox, hpde, circuit, etc) would TRULY recommend staying with the completely stock car... but if I do stay with stock shocks, which is a possibility, are there recommended springs to get? (after driving on vehicles with aftermarket springs/shocks vs aftermarket coilovers vs stock, I'd say that cars running on coilovers seem to be the more desirable)
Let's say for example I want the car to be a dedicated HPDE car... what suspension is recommended (please don't say stock, I know you guys don't run stockers for any serious driving!!)
And say for another example I want the car to be a dedicated drift car... what suspension is recommended for that as well?
I'm just trying to gather information by the way. Not going out tomorrow to buy parts. Driver skill is the most important but the car being set up properly is important as well. It's just hard to decide what different products are best for the car under different types of conditions since I obviously do not have the luxury to go out and test drive cars with various suspension types.
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Originally Posted by JDM Baller,Dec 10 2004, 08:25 PM
To WowS2k and pantyraider.... were you posts in any way helpful? Explain the meaning please...