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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Nov 18 2009, 07:37 PM
I would have to disagree with that theory as the improvised coilover does not currently have any tension on it when suspension is completely unloaded as in the case of being on jackstands, i.e. the spring tops do not touch the tophats. I was told this is not uncommon at all with such a setup.

Edit: Of course, if they did, I believe your idea would be a matter of interest.
So, at full droop your springs are loose? I'd imagine this could get hairy in cases of inside wheel lift or jumps like at Shenandoah. What if the car re-weights with the spring kinked on the perch?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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[QUOTE=tinkfist,Nov 18 2009, 07:47 PM] So, at full droop your springs are loose?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by crash,Nov 18 2009, 07:45 PM
I guess it could be less coils makes for more liner spring rate?
taller coil softer spring but same spring rate as a shorter stiffer spring with the same rate

I hope what i am trying to say makes sense.
I am talking about the actual metal and not the spring overall.
I understand what you're trying to say: linear vs. progressive tendencies.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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I use the helper to keep tension on the spring so that it doesn't unseat when unloaded. I run the 6in springs because they gave me more clearance around the TC Design upper arms, which I no longer run. I also got a deal on a whole bunch used 6in springs in different rates as a bundle. When on the ground, the helpers are completely compressed, and even when unloaded, they are mostly compressed. It's mostly for peace of mind, as I store my car with the wheels off the ground between events and I was always paranoid about checking that all the springs re-seated properly.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SC_Highlander,Nov 18 2009, 07:56 PM
I use the helper to keep tension on the spring so that it doesn't unseat when unloaded. I run the 6in springs because I got a deal on a whole used bunch of different spring rates as a bundle. When on the ground, the helpers are completely compressed, and even when unloaded, they are mostly compressed. It's mostly for peace of mind, as I store my car with the wheels off the ground between events and I was always paranoid about checking that all the springs re-seated properly.
Then I assume you use the upper perch on the Koni shock body. Yes?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Nov 18 2009, 07:53 PM
You drive faster.
I wish, Mr. Skip Schumacher. But seriously, you had 4 wheels up at 'Doah before (with pics to prove it), how are your springs keeping still?
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SC_Highlander,Nov 18 2009, 07:56 PM
...I was always paranoid about checking that all the springs re-seated properly.
Skip isn't.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FF2Skip,Nov 18 2009, 07:58 PM
Then I assume you use the upper perch on the Koni shock body. Yes?
Nope. The sleeves sit on the lower perch. The collars are run up within an inch of the top of the sleeve to get the ride height that I want, though. I could move the sleeves up to the upper perch and lower the collar some if I wanted to.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SC_Highlander,Nov 18 2009, 08:08 PM
Nope. The sleeves sit on the lower perch. The collars are run up within an inch of the top of the sleeve to get the ride height that I want, though. I could move the sleeves up to the upper perch and lower the collar some if I wanted to.
Of course. I have basically the same setup. I am having "the dumb" right now.
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