F20C Miata Build
After reading Cthree's thread (awesome btw) I wanted to show you guys what I've been working on for the past few months:
Take a look =)
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...f=113&t=417646
Comments welcome!
Take a look =)
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...f=113&t=417646
Comments welcome!
Originally Posted by krazik,Feb 14 2007, 12:10 PM
yeah but its still a miata
you should have bought a salvaged s2k and would have had a s2k for about the same $ 
you should have bought a salvaged s2k and would have had a s2k for about the same $ 
1) Price of parts. You run a Miata into the wall and it costs ALOT less to fix than an S2000.
2) Weight, the Miata starts lighter and ends up lighter than an S2000 with comparable race prep.
3) Tires. Due to the size/weight of the Miata, it isn't necessary to put 18" wheels with $1000+ sets of tires to be quick. My Miata will never see anything larger than 16" wheels (and even that is pushing it size wise) which results in far lower tire costs.
4) Size of aftermarket. Much larger availability of both OEM and aftermarket parts.
5) Then there's obviously the underdog/uniqueness factor. Who doesn't want to pass high performance $100k+ cars with a pos Miata?
All in all I think this car should be faster than a comparably priced S2000, we'll see.
hmm I don't agree it will be faster.
1) Yeah a new chassis is cheaper till you crash hard and you have to rebuild it anyway. Motors frequently don't survive those sorts of crashes.
2) yes the miata will be lighter. but the chassis is inferior, tho a cage helps that a lot.
3) that makes no sense, there is no requirement for 18" wheels. You'll get maybe a 245 on the miata? Where you could run 4 AP1 rear wheels with 255-265 tires for the same cost. and a lot more grip.
4) you're running a f20c in a miata, theres not much aftermarket for that.
5) you can do that w/ a spec miata for a lot less $.
just my 2bits. good choice on BSI tho, my friend races w/ them in Grand-am this year.
1) Yeah a new chassis is cheaper till you crash hard and you have to rebuild it anyway. Motors frequently don't survive those sorts of crashes.
2) yes the miata will be lighter. but the chassis is inferior, tho a cage helps that a lot.
3) that makes no sense, there is no requirement for 18" wheels. You'll get maybe a 245 on the miata? Where you could run 4 AP1 rear wheels with 255-265 tires for the same cost. and a lot more grip.
4) you're running a f20c in a miata, theres not much aftermarket for that.
5) you can do that w/ a spec miata for a lot less $.
just my 2bits. good choice on BSI tho, my friend races w/ them in Grand-am this year.
Adding an F20C to a Miata is pretty cool, but based on examples I've seen, just adding a turbo to a Miata engine would probably get you the same or better results with less cost and effort.
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Originally Posted by krazik,Feb 14 2007, 01:51 PM
hmm I don't agree it will be faster.
1) Yeah a new chassis is cheaper till you crash hard and you have to rebuild it anyway. Motors frequently don't survive those sorts of crashes.
2) yes the miata will be lighter. but the chassis is inferior, tho a cage helps that a lot.
3) that makes no sense, there is no requirement for 18" wheels. You'll get maybe a 245 on the miata? Where you could run 4 AP1 rear wheels with 255-265 tires for the same cost. and a lot more grip.
4) you're running a f20c in a miata, theres not much aftermarket for that.
5) you can do that w/ a spec miata for a lot less $.
just my 2bits. good choice on BSI tho, my friend races w/ them in Grand-am this year.
1) Yeah a new chassis is cheaper till you crash hard and you have to rebuild it anyway. Motors frequently don't survive those sorts of crashes.
2) yes the miata will be lighter. but the chassis is inferior, tho a cage helps that a lot.
3) that makes no sense, there is no requirement for 18" wheels. You'll get maybe a 245 on the miata? Where you could run 4 AP1 rear wheels with 255-265 tires for the same cost. and a lot more grip.
4) you're running a f20c in a miata, theres not much aftermarket for that.
5) you can do that w/ a spec miata for a lot less $.
just my 2bits. good choice on BSI tho, my friend races w/ them in Grand-am this year.
BTW Spec Miatas are slower than paint drying
Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Feb 14 2007, 02:26 PM
Adding an F20C to a Miata is pretty cool, but based on examples I've seen, just adding a turbo to a Miata engine would probably get you the same or better results with less cost and effort.
As far as cost, my engine swap cost about $6000 including the cost of the engine/transmission & custom fabrication, the FM kits are about $5000 PLUS the cost of the 1.8 engine swap and I'd have only a 5 speed. The price difference really isn't that great and I get an engine that lasts a long time with little tinkering and maintenance.
Originally Posted by krazik,Feb 14 2007, 02:36 PM
exactly. F20C is cool but why not just put a LS6 in?
or hell a rotary
or hell a rotary






