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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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I am looking forward to finally tracking my 2nd s2k. But I am concerned about of my helmet being higher than the oem roll bar. I had tracked my former ap2 in the past once at a private event for sound testing and had no issues driving top up or down there.

The new organization that I am driving with does allow the s2k in stock form but their rules state that the top must be down. I am 6' 4" and stick over the bar by a fair amount. Let alone with the helmet on. Should I be concerned? I know this had to be been brought up before. Thoughts?
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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lol practice getting shorter. i have heard about people taking off the factory seat rails and bolting the seat to the floor by use of custom brackets.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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What's really scary is when you pull the covers off them and see how low the factory roll hoops really are... I said F that and just did a Hard Dog roll bar and a race seat mounted as low as possible... I feel much safer and more secure now...
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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huh never noticed. maybe because im so short 5'6" def not worried about my head sticking over anything
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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remove seat padding.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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If you are worried about safety get a Hard Dog Roll Bar.

The S2000 has a pretty heafty reinforcing bar inside the window frame. So while most cars would colapse at an angle from the top of the roll bar to the front of the hood, the S2000 is likely to maintain the integrity of the a-pillar and the windshield frame.


Image of S2000 that rolled with a Hard Dog Roll Bar.

edit: This is also why the rear hoops are 'wimpy'. The windshild frame is acting as the main roll protection, and the roll hoops and the trunk support the rear of the car.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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I know that long term I will be going with a aftermarket seat as low as possible and a roll bar. But in the short term I amconcerned about the possibility of being black flagged my first weekend back on track. Has anyone heard of this happening before?

At the end of the day I don't know what id do if my helmet still was above the rollbar with a aftermarket seat/bar combo. I know at the event coming up I won't be pushing hard but would hate to spend 200 plus in event fees alone just to get flagged.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Compare the picture above to a Miata that rolled with a Hard Dog Roll Bar.



That's why a broom stick test from the top of the windshield to the roll bar is BS for most cars.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Wow that is really interesting and makes me feel more safe about driving before I get a aftermarket bar. It suppose it just comes to chance on whether or not the organizers are aware of this sort of thing. I feel like if I call and ask the director it will just bring the issue to the forefront. Where as if I don't I may be able to drive a full day.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RobHimself
Wow that is really interesting and makes me feel more safe about driving before I get a aftermarket bar. It suppose it just comes to chance on whether or not the organizers are aware of this sort of thing. I feel like if I call and ask the director it will just bring the issue to the forefront. Where as if I don't I may be able to drive a full day.
Honda states the S2000 has a roll over protection system, some tracks accept that, others use a broomstick test, and others require a roll bar.
It's interesting to note that the Mid-Ohio School S2000s do not have roll bars, but, the hardtop Acura TSXs do.

Mid-Ohio School S2000

edit: When I took the high performance course at Mid-Ohio they were only using the S2000s for the Autocross section and the TSXs for the rest of the course. My personal opinion is I wouldn't track my car without a roll bar and a HANS, but, maybe I'm paranoid.
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