I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this (moderator please move if there's a better section), but it's a look into the N1 Concepts time attack S2000. The engine is baller.... among all the other stuff on the car.:

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/ar...onda-s2000.aspx

 

I don't think it stands a chance, cars in our class have triple the power and more aero not to mention arguably better suspension. I doubt it's lighter by more than the weight of a turbo, larger rims and tires, and an under tray than my car and I'm sure the FXMD is still faster than me by a good bit.

 

And weak brakes from the factory? come on....sure they aren't the best but certainly better than a lot of factory brakes.

 

It is leading the points for the RTA West Region.

 

The brakes ARE weak from the factory. Just search how many cracked rotor threads there are, and those are on NA S2000s probably only putting 210-240whp down.

I should rephase my statement on the engine; it's baller for a NA engine. But WAAAAAY down on power compared to the competition like Ben said. They should really just boost it.

 

Probably because no one else is competing, I wonder where FXMD has been?

 

So if you can win without putting the time and money into making more power, than why.

 

Brakes are weak from the factory for racing but so are they on just about any sports car short of Porsche/Ferrari. Even the Brembos on the 350z/sti/evo don't hold up that great to track driving without a better pad upgrade.

 

oh no. another brake thread?

I raced for 5 years on the oem brakes and didn't have a problem till I was well north of 450hp.

Also the cracking happens when they cool off, so its not exactly a problem on track. cracking rotors does NOT mean the brakes are weak or don't work exceptionally well.

 

Well, I should clarify my useage of the word 'weak'. Yes, the stock brakes have plenty of stopping power. They are 'weak' because the rotors crack, i.e. the system is not robust enough.

The cracking happens when they cool off? So are you suppose to never stop? How is that a good design?

What if we had a turbo turbine housing that also performed fine on track, and also only cracked when it cooled off. Is that acceptable?

It can be argued that brake rotors are a wear item and replaced often. But it should WEAR, not crack. I want to replace rotors because they are past their service wear, not because they have cracks.

Clutches are wear items too. It may perform perfectly, or exceptionally well as you say, providing the correct clamp load, etc. Is it acceptable for them to throw springs out instead of wear out first?

My contention is that the brake rotor cracking is not an acceptable 'wear' criteria, therefore the stock setup is 'weak'. Obviously, some other may disagree which is fine, everyone is intitled to their own view point.