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Old May 1, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Something doesn't feel right, the car tends to oversteer more than it should (in my opinion) given the setup I'm currently running. The front is very very planted; however the rear feels light. My main issue is with mid turn oversteer.

255/40/17 on 17x9 +45 Star Spec all around. 38 psi hot
Gendron 1-5/16" FSB on full stiff
AP2 rear swaybar
Tein SRC (Front 4 com/4 rebound, Rear 4 comp/6 reb)
Kaaz 1.5 LSD
APR GTC-300 (currently at 5 deg AOA)
Camber -3.5F/-3.0R. Toe: 0 front, 0.25" total rear

The only thing I can think of is corner-balance. I had initially corner balanced the car when I had the same setup but with 17x8 225/40 up the front. Since then, I changed the front wheels to 17x9 with 255s. The overall diameter is almost the same as before, maybe 2 mm smaller. I can argue that the weight may be a little more front biased now.

I'm thinking of going back to check my corner weights and perhaps set the rear to -3.5 camber as well. I tried tinkering with tire pressure & adjusting the clickers; however the rear never feels planted. The car does seem to like -6 rebound front and -4 rebound rear.

Any thoughts?

thanks!
Arax
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Old May 1, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Dial in some more rear wing.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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less rear rebound too
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Old May 1, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Are you auto crossing or road racing the car. I am assuming autox because the Gendron is about 925 lbs/in if you are running the solid bar on full stiff. That would be way too stiff for road racing.


Check the ride height difference front to rear

I thought the largest Gendron bar was 1.25".

Is yours hollow or solid?

Have you talked to Bill at Gendron about your setup?
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Old May 1, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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I am road racing. The only reason it's set on full stiff is because I'm trying to counter the oversteer (which helped significantly).

The Gendron bar is a custom piece. He makes sizes larger than 1.25" by request. Mine is a hollow bar.

As for ride height, it looks visually equal. I guess I can go measure to see the difference. Also, since the car has been corner balanced, doesn't that infer that ride height is OK?
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Old May 1, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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-3.0° rear camber.
Surprised that hasn't been questioned.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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I'm really surprised your car is oversteering. Shouldn't with that setup, you sure its not the cockpit spacer?
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Old May 1, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Antonov,May 1 2010, 09:05 PM
I'm really surprised your car is oversteering.
Ditto. Have you checked for mechanical issues? Front sway bar endlink broken? One of your rear shocks shot? Cord a rear tire? Tweak your alignment hitting curbs?
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Old May 1, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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I`d go for -3,0º front / -3,5º rear camber, but this is just an educated guess. Good luck.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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On or off throttle? Part throttle or full throttle?

-Rob
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