At that point, engine braking and e-brake is about all you have left. Seeing how (on our cars) engine brake + e-brake will all be directed to the rear wheels, the tail should come out somewhat easily.

Could someone with some experience chime in?

Let's say you find yourself in that position, in this case we'll say there are no other cars near you on the track. Brakes fail and you're going way to fast to take the corner (AKA: you're going off the track no matter what). Are there some situations where you would want to try an engine brake + e-brake combination to put the car into a slide before you leave the track surface? My idea behind that is going sideways on the track would scrub more speed than engine braking + e-brake. Of course, leaving the track sideways could spell rollover too.

Basically, something bad is going to happen, I just want to know if there are any certain things that can be done to lessen the severity of the impact.

 

I've done a few track days and it never ceases to amaze me when someone shows up with a nice car, helmet, etc. with black brake fluid and razor thin pads. Brake fluid is the #1 reason we fail someone at tech inspection, even after several e-mails reminding them to flush it.

At least the driver walked away!

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[quote name='krazik' date='Jan 8 2009, 11:57 PM']many brakes will pop the piston out if you run too far onto the backing plate.

 

i wonder why race pads don't come with little metal tabs that let you know when the pads gets low like OEM pads do. i guess racers are suppose to be more aware of their equipments.

 

That MS3 has some major design flaw. How do I know? I had one and I took it to track a few times.

First, the brakes sucks in track after it's been heated up. There is some kind of braking assist which do more harm.

2nd, the engine mount broken and engine drop to the ground in many 07s

3rd, my engine blew @ 10K miles because of a bad crank angle sensor.

AND the powersteering was never working right after my engine blew.

Spend at least 2 months in the dealer in the 1 yr of ownership.

I sold it after a year. May be I just got a bad one, I dunno.

 

exactly why.

Check your shit. Decent brake pads don't disappear to nowhere.

I suspect the problem (from my comfy couch) was that the crappy pads got thin, crumbled away and dude didn't notice for many laps and he was on the backing plates already and got one of the brake pistons past the seal and pumped all his fluid out.

I haven't read more than the 1 guys post. But if that happened I would expect there to be lots of brake fluid inside the wheel.

BTW no one has commented on the asshat in the camera car(video) that stops on track and gets out of his car!! So now it could become a 2 car crash. Idiot.