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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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I went with a non-stagger setup and I knew I would get oversteer. Just wondering what others have done to reduce it?

17x9 +63 Buddy Club QF's all around with 255/40/17 Azenis 615's
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Mainly autocross right now. I lowered air pressure and it helped a bit. What other things can I do.

I read a thread about removing the rear sway bar? Beneficial for a non-stagger set up?

Plan to get a alingment so that is on the list already. Just trying to get this set up going.

James
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Would unhooking the rear sway help?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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stiffer front sway bar.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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get rid of the buddy clubs? How much did you slam the car? I bet you're bottoming out in the back. If you don't get rid of the shitty shocks, put the car back to stock ride height.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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What can I expect running 235/40R17 RA-1s on all corners wit 8.5" +50 Volk RE-30 wheels? I'm going to guess major oversteer and am planning to use a Mugen front bar and disconnect the rear bar to try an balance it out. Will that be enough?

I'll have 110Nm rear springs and 120Nm fronts on Ohlins shocks.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by krazik' date='Mar 19 2007, 11:17 AM
get rid of the buddy clubs? How much did you slam the car? I bet you're bottoming out in the back. If you don't get rid of the shitty shocks, put the car back to stock ride height.
Not on Buddy Clubs, Tein Flex, that probably wont change you answer though
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Sorry Buddy Club wheels missed that. The teins will have less of an issue bottoming out. You didn't answer my question tho.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by krazik' date='Mar 19 2007, 01:38 PM
Sorry Buddy Club wheels missed that. The teins will have less of an issue bottoming out. You didn't answer my question tho.
Well the fronts are approx 1.5 inch lower, cant go too low with the 255's up front. The rear is approx 2-2.25 inches lower. It seems I have enough "stroke" up and down but maybe not.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by vvs' date='Mar 20 2007, 07:51 AM
Well the fronts are approx 1.5 inch lower, cant go too low with the 255's up front. The rear is approx 2-2.25 inches lower. It seems I have enough "stroke" up and down but maybe not.
I don't know how much travel the Tein Flex has or how stiff the springs are (no personal experience). What I can share is that a 2.25" drop in the rear is far enough to get you into trouble with some coilovers on the S. You may want to check that out.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by vvs' date='Mar 20 2007, 05:51 AM
Well the fronts are approx 1.5 inch lower, cant go too low with the 255's up front. The rear is approx 2-2.25 inches lower. It seems I have enough "stroke" up and down but maybe not.
theres your problem, un-slam the car. even my race car w/ JRZ's I'm still within 1" of stock ride height because we have so little travel in the rear.
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