Off topic- Track days motorcycles
In my opinion based on my s2k which was all stock with only wheels/tires and shocks (no aero or tuning engine) and considering I was not that fast this cars will not corner any faster than bikes.
I think reason for bikes been faster is all in acceleration out of the corners.
I think reason for bikes been faster is all in acceleration out of the corners.
Formula Pacific, kind of a cross between a open wheel formula car and a Kart.
http://www.sportscardigest.com/formu...eries-emerges/
Eddie Lawson at streets. 1:14
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54C8i9acRaY[/media]
I believe Lawson has done 1:13 in a Super Kart.
Pretty cool. Looks like a lot of fun and very inexpensive, bang for the buck, but not sure where you could use it.
The Spec Moto is the way to go.
http://www.sportscardigest.com/formu...eries-emerges/
Eddie Lawson at streets. 1:14
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54C8i9acRaY[/media]
I believe Lawson has done 1:13 in a Super Kart.
Pretty cool. Looks like a lot of fun and very inexpensive, bang for the buck, but not sure where you could use it.
The Spec Moto is the way to go.
In my opinion based on my s2k which was all stock with only wheels/tires and shocks (no aero or tuning engine) and considering I was not that fast this cars will not corner any faster than bikes.
I think reason for bikes been faster is all in acceleration out of the corners.
I think reason for bikes been faster is all in acceleration out of the corners.
e.g. a bike leaned over at 45deg is pulling 1 lateral G.
Bikes are cheaper and provide unmatched acceleration for the the money spent for track days. You can buy a fully prepped track bike for 3-5K.
One day track day locally are 90-150.00.
Some of the organizers have a full rental, school program that will allow you to use their equipment, bike, leathers, gloves........more money but a sign and ride is much easier the first time!
May be money better spent. . Show up, classroom instruction, typically a very small group of 3-5 students to one or two instructors.
The end of the day you will be wore out!
Little Talledega is a great track for your first event because you can see thru every corner and it is typically cheaper for events.
When you go racing things change!
One day track day locally are 90-150.00.
Some of the organizers have a full rental, school program that will allow you to use their equipment, bike, leathers, gloves........more money but a sign and ride is much easier the first time!
May be money better spent. . Show up, classroom instruction, typically a very small group of 3-5 students to one or two instructors.
The end of the day you will be wore out!
Little Talledega is a great track for your first event because you can see thru every corner and it is typically cheaper for events.
When you go racing things change!
Bottom line Josh is yes, try a motorcycle school or track day--you'll have a blast and learn a lot about you and your bike.
But wouldn't it vary as a function of:
* The type of tire? Seems like this would be a big variation say from a street tire to a slick.
* The track surface.
The Moto GP guys routinely hit 55deg lean, tan 55 = 1.43 G.
So what is the variation for example on a R Comp VS racing slick at 55 deg?
Originally Posted by cracknut' timestamp='1379045271' post='22775858
It's easy to figure out how hard a bike is cornering: tangent (lean angle) = lateral Gs
e.g. a bike leaned over at 45deg is pulling 1 lateral G.
But wouldn't it vary as a function of:
* The type of tire? Seems like this would be a big variation say from a street tire to a slick.
* The track surface.
The Moto GP guys routinely hit 55deg lean, tan 55 = 1.43 G.
So what is the variation for example on a R Comp VS racing slick at 55 deg?

There is no variation in G force between different compound tires at the same lean angle. It's the compounds ability to reach lean angles. MotoGP guys are going over 60 degrees now. I can tell you my street tires on my 600RR sure as hell will not get to that lean angle and the associated lateral G force. They would lose traction way before that, at a lower lean angle and lower lateral G force.

btw. was to come and race Summit next weekend and just got call they canceled race weekend. They moved it to RA 2 weeks later.










