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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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i have an s2k on jrz single adjustable, i think my rates are 450 front 550 rear. does anyone have an idea where in relationship i might be to that "magical" number of 1 g. i hear g-techs are not accurate and want to see what my car really does...streets of willow in nov will be my first track outing since the jrz's went on.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Don't you think a bit of that depends on tires?
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Shocks have little to do with absolute grip level; tires do. S02s are good for about 0.9g, while RA1s allow up to about 1.3g. Some of the guys on slicks have seen up to about 1.8g. To go much above that you need real aero.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by twohoos,Oct 17 2004, 05:43 PM
To go much above that you need real aero.
Like this?



I'll bet he could pull 1.9 at least
(That's on street tires too!)
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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I wonder when F1 will start requiring g-suits...
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 04:26 AM
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In addition to tires, the type of surface that you are driving on is also a major factor.

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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by twohoos,Oct 17 2004, 11:57 PM
I wonder when F1 will start requiring g-suits...
I don't know the answer to that. <<<

But I had to smile on Tuesday trying to explain to a co-worker why I was sore after two days of track time at FCT04
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by twohoos,Oct 18 2004, 12:43 AM
Shocks have little to do with absolute grip level; tires do. S02s are good for about 0.9g, while RA1s allow up to about 1.3g. Some of the guys on slicks have seen up to about 1.8g. To go much above that you need real aero.
You cannot do much more than 1.2 g without and aeroeffect /downforce!
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by stocky,Oct 30 2004, 07:06 AM
You cannot do much more than 1.2 g without and aeroeffect /downforce!
I think he's quoting transient numbers. If you look at a graph of g-forces for a car on a track, the steady-state grip (what you would be measuring with a true skidpad test) is rarely going to go much over 1g, even with race tires, etc (unless you're carrying speed and have aero). BUT, in transitioning, the car will see peaks of g-loading that are quite a bit higher than the stead-state levels.

I agree that shocks don't have MUCH effect on steady-state grip (that's mostly just a game of rubber), they do have an effect. I felt like JP definitely had more grip in the turns at Buttonwillow earlier this month than I did and we were on the same tires.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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No, I was talking about steady-state. R-compounds will sustain 1.2g without aero, a little more if there's significant banking (and I have the telemetry to prove it).
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