A Question On Driving Technique
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i know this sounds counter-intuitive but id turn the wheel straight towards the wall because hopefully by the time you turn it straight at the wall, youve scrubbed off enough speed so then turn the wheel again away from the wall.
most people would panic and try to turn farther away from the wall but that would just increase your slip angle and completely screw you over.
most people would panic and try to turn farther away from the wall but that would just increase your slip angle and completely screw you over.
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From: Gods Speed #57 Lemons #77
Hell, I would probably "both feet in" and hope that something hard does not stop me. 
At some point, you are not driving anymore; you are just along for the ride. Given what is going on the in picture, I don't see how you recover as there is essentially no room to do so. Take this with a grain of salt since I am a track guy not a rallyX guy but if you are sideways, too fast and have no room I don't see a viable recovery.
At some point, you are not driving anymore; you are just along for the ride. Given what is going on the in picture, I don't see how you recover as there is essentially no room to do so. Take this with a grain of salt since I am a track guy not a rallyX guy but if you are sideways, too fast and have no room I don't see a viable recovery.
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Originally Posted by Orthonormal,Dec 14 2010, 08:58 AM
You should define "going sideways". It's safe to assume that means the rear tires were sliding, but what were the front tires doing? Were you steering towards the direction the car was sliding, so that the front tires still had grip? Or were the front tires sliding, too?
In the second case, you would want to straighten the wheel or steer towards the direction that the car is sliding, to allow the front tires to regain grip.
In the first case, if you are not going too fast for the turn, then you could counter-steer less, tightening the turn radius for the front tires, and increasing the angle of the slide. But if that results in a spin, the odds are you were going too fast in the first place.
If you were going too fast to begin with, about all you can do is let off the throttle as much as you can without losing the rear end, counter-steer to maintain grip on the front, and ride it out until you're not in danger of sliding off the road.
I agree with captain_pants.
In the second case, you would want to straighten the wheel or steer towards the direction that the car is sliding, to allow the front tires to regain grip.
In the first case, if you are not going too fast for the turn, then you could counter-steer less, tightening the turn radius for the front tires, and increasing the angle of the slide. But if that results in a spin, the odds are you were going too fast in the first place.
If you were going too fast to begin with, about all you can do is let off the throttle as much as you can without losing the rear end, counter-steer to maintain grip on the front, and ride it out until you're not in danger of sliding off the road.
I agree with captain_pants.
It really didn't do anything, since the car still went where it wanted. When I realized that, I went "both feet in" and stopped the car JUST before I hit the curb. Not fun...
I must say, I am very thankful for all the advice given here. Lots of words of wisdom to be found here.
Thanks fellas. Keep the ideas coming in. I am reading all of it, although I don't understand most of it.
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Another couple cents. You are probably countersteering too early. This curve is about 270 degrees. About the sharpest you will find. You have to let it oversteer big time to lineup with the exit. Countersteer when you see the exit.
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