Hi everyone!
I just replaced my C6 Corvette with my first S2000. It's a stock AP2 and I love it! I'm going to use it for daily driving, autocross and HPDE. I would like to add a spoiler or small rear wing to help keep the rear a little more planted (particularly for HPDE). I was thinking of this one - https://www.andysautosport.com/produ...s__FG-198.html - but I'm open to any suggestions or words of advice. Since this is my daily, I don't anything too over the top or conspicuous.

Thanks!

 

 

Here's the "poverty" wing that was recommended to me:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/S2000-S2K-A...N/122096449682

The link you gave isn't going to add any downforce, style points only. If you wanna stay OEM or less conspicuos get a CR wing or CR replica wing.

Mounting any wing on a spare trunk is a huge bonus.

 

I can't vouch for the eBay one listed above but know a couple of people use it with good/great results.

The APR GTC 200 without risers isn't too conspicuous and it's a 3D wing so it will work better under the roofline compared to 2D.

Keep in mind a hardtop really makes wings (and aero profile overall) much more effective.

 

The OEM one you linked is pretty much useless. I wouldn't go any smaller than a CR-style wing and would prefer to recommend a GTC200 with larger end plates over the CR-wing.

I understand not wanting a park bench on your daily driver, and i was also in the same situation before my s2k turned into a "toy" with 80/20 track/"street" split. i got the gtc200 and just pulled the wing on and off and drove around with holes in my trunk and no wing for street use.

There is no denying the usefulness and reduction in laptimes that larger wing produce, but they're also obnoxious on the street due to what i consider the "wrong" kinds of attention it attracts. They're just "loud" looking, and there's no avoiding that.

My recommendation is go CR wing if you plan to leave it on even for dd use. Otherwise, if you can bare trunk swapping/wing removal, I'd recommend a larger GTC200 or larger wing over the cr wing.

 

You're way to early to put a wing on the car. From what it sounds like, your car is fairly stock. Keep it that way and drive it until you begin to outgrow the car.

Also, you need a hardtop for the wing to do anything. At track events, convertibles must have the top down, rendering a wing almost useless. It will cause as much drag as it does downforce with that dirty air.

 

Agree with this 110%. The s2000 will teach you sooo much more without a wing.

 

Thanks for the advice. I've heard the S2000 likes to swap ends, so I was thinking a little areo may help, but it sounds like a lotta areo is needed. I may just go wingless until I get more familiar with how this car acts on track.

 

Putting a wing will add a lot of understeer to car, just drive wingless first and as you progress can get a wing to get more speed out of high speed sweepers. The staggered setup stock with rear wing will probably make the understeer even worse than on my square 255 setup with a gtc 200.

But I would go with that ebay wing linked above if you want one in the future, i dont have but has very little drag, better than gtc 200 design.

 

I feel like this reputation stems from inexperienced drivers and bad tires. As others have said, the stock setup up of the car actually understeers a bit with all that stagger. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no engineer, but the so called twitchiness comes from the rear subframe geometry. From what I've read, the rear end has a lot of dynamic toe (more significant in the AP1 than AP2) and this can be a double edged sword. It rewards smooth driving but on the other hand it makes it really easy to induce trailing oversteer if you're ham-fisted with your driving. AP1 spring and sway bar rates also probably contribute a little bit with the stiffer rear springs and sway bars. Supposedly this may reduce some of the active range of the rear end to limit the bump steer but I feel that it also shifts a lot of the grip balance towards the front.

I've had the car kick out suddenly on me once in the past when I was the typical idiot and the "snap" oversteer does come on extremely fast if you're unfamiliar with chassis dynamics and can't recognize the oversteer that you just induced before its too late to correct it. It was pisspantsshittinglyscary. But after some practice at autocross events I can say that I'm much more confident with the car and even on stock AP1 suspension with 255 square I don't feel the car is excessively tail happy at all. Honda isn't stupid and wouldn't release a mass produced a car that is a complete widowmaker, so in most general driving conditions on the street it's perfectly fine. But at the limit it does become some what unforgiving.