Our car was 2660lb... Corner weights were perfect. With me in the driver's seat, the F/R distribution was 50/50 and BOTH diagonals were 50/50 also! Amazing how balanced this car is. 2660lb. was with 3 bars of fuel, Hoosiers(lighter) and the Mugen exhaust... as well as removal of spare and tools. We should lose another 20lb. with the shocks, and 14lb. with the JDM wheels. As a goal, 2626lb. is a real possibility. Dayum! What a light and balanced car!

 

Any idea what the Boxster S was weighing in at?

 

Yes, I do actually... they were complaining about not being able to get below 2912lb. They carry much extra weight, but possess much extra torque and tire-width!

 

Just as a comparison, we weighed Marcus #1 at San Diego last year, and he came in at 2697 pounds without me in the car, and 2884 with me in the car. The diagonal wieghts (with me in the car) came out at 1459 and 1426, left to right was 1475 and 1413, and front to rear was 1437 and 1452.

So yes, the car is very well balanced. I may weigh Marcus #2 this year to see how close it all comes out (with the exception of me weighing about 5 or 10 pounds more....)

I'm kind of curious as to you saying that the shocks will shed 20 pounds from the car.... I don't think ours did that.....

Ron Bauer

 

Hey, Ron, I can't remember, but didn't we weigh the car with the 265's on the rear, too? San Diego is where Rudy from Kumho convinced us to try them... that should make a difference, too... big ol' Kumhos...

 

Yeah, that probably was the case. I don't remember for sure though.

Ron

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Saini
[B]Yes, I do actually... they were complaining about not being able to get below 2912lb.

 

the Boxster S well prepared SHOULD beat the S2K if driven by comparable drivers, that's why it's classed in SS while the S2K remains in AS!!

still think our guys (and gal!) did awesome - as expected!

 

Perhaps you could explain why the S should beat the S2K. Obviously, spec sheets alone don't tell the whole story (for example, the very similarly spec'd RX-7TT is in SS too, right?).

UL

 

The BoxsterS has much more torque and considerably wider tires. On certain courses (like this past weekend) we can be very close to them. You'll also notice that the B-Stock Miatas were running the same times. There isn't a chance for the Boxster to take advantage of their power and tires. This coming weekend at Meridian, it will be a different story. Much faster, wide open courses will allow the BoxsterS and Z06 run much faster times than us.

Different course designs create a phenomenon called 'course dependancy.' This holds for both autocross and road-courses. The S2K has a much better chance at a track like Grattan, Gingerman or Blackhawk than it has at Road America. Lap times or autocross times generally equalize the tighter and more technical the courses become. That's why last weekend's results look like they do.

There is a big classing debate as to whether or not the BoxsterS, Rx7tt and S2K all belong in the same class with the Z06. It's easy to discuss car specs, but more difficult to try and predict what the cars will do on different courses.

For now, the rules makers believe that the S2K is more on par with the standard Boxster, Mr2t, and 968. If you look at recent results, Super-Stock and A-Stock almost always run nearly identical times. However, they will probably remain in different classes due to a fear that course dependancy will make the more powerful cars dominant on certain courses.

The fact of the matter is it was our first race, and I am very happy to have run within .150 of Rob Falkner (past champ, and considered one of the best) on a 70 second combined time. Cones kept my score a little slower, but I know that with practice I can do it. Also, I know that once we get our shocks - we'll be kicking tail.

This will be an interesting year as far as classing - there was allot of grumbling at Ft. Myers about our S2k being able to compete with the Super-Stock cars. If it turns out that we can consistently run with them, we might end up classed there. The Rx7tt spent the first couple years in AS before they were set up properly and started beating SS times. Then they become the dominant SS car - I can see the same thing happening with the S2K.