S2000 Racing and Competition The S2000 on the track and Solo circuit. Some of the fastest S2000 drivers in the world call this forum home.

Roll Cage while still keeping OEM softtop

Thread Tools
 
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:10 PM
  #1  
600rr_rocket's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 0
From: LA/OC
Thumbs up Roll Cage while still keeping OEM softtop

Now that I am getting somewhat faster (but still MUCH slower than the fast S2K guys ), I have been considering getting a roll bar. However, I LOVE the fact that our cars are convertible in SoCal, and I don't want to get a hardtop.

What manufacturers make roll bars that still allow us the functionality of our convertible softtop? Cost? Also cost of labor at local shops in OC/LA. Thanks!!!

Looks like Cusco makes a 4-point, just like in Rob's car:

Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:38 PM
  #2  
zacha79's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Default

for actual safety, the cusco cage is not really worth much. many people on here, and sometime in the future me, have the harddog rollbar. which as you can see in two pics at the bottom works with the softtop.

http://www.bethania-garage.com/s2000.htm
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:42 PM
  #3  
zacha79's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Default

some testimonials to show how well the harddog rollbar works...http://www.bethania-garage.com/testimonials.htm
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:55 PM
  #4  
mikegarrison's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 3
From: Covington WA, USA
Default

If the softtop is important enough to you, then it does seem like the Harddog bar is the best way to go. Be aware that this is necessarily a compromise, however. You can build a bar with much better geometry if you decide to eliminate the softtop.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:58 PM
  #5  
600rr_rocket's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 0
From: LA/OC
Default

Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Feb 23 2009, 09:55 PM
If the softtop is important enough to you, then it does seem like the Harddog bar is the best way to go. Be aware that this is necessarily a compromise, however. You can build a bar with much better geometry if you decide to eliminate the softtop.
I 110% understand...but I am looking for the best compromise between a street-driven convertible S2K w/ convertible PLUS track-driven S2K.

Other than the Harddog, other options? Where in SoCal can I get the Harddog, plus cost of labor? Thanks!
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:04 PM
  #6  
zacha79's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Default

there are a few how-to's on here describing the install step by step with pics and it looks like it would be a doable home instal
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:06 PM
  #7  
mikegarrison's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 3
From: Covington WA, USA
Default

Just have harddog ship it to you. That will be cheaper than the only real alternative, which would be having somebody custom weld one for you.

I wouldn't trust those JDM-style bars myself, but they might be better than nothing.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 02:44 AM
  #8  
Budman05's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,261
Likes: 1
From: The Blue Ridge
Default

Originally Posted by zacha79,Feb 24 2009, 01:04 AM
there are a few how-to's on here describing the install step by step with pics and it looks like it would be a doable home instal
It is a home install for some, but not others. It took me about 16 hours to install my Elda bar. IMHO, a garage is mandatory, because it will probably be left in pieces overnight.

If you plan on trimming the interior parts, you will need a lot more time.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 11:11 AM
  #9  
s2kobsession's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,874
Likes: 1
From: Lower Mainland
Default

here are a few pics of my harddog. It isn't welded yet, but this spring will be my first with it. Soft top fits over it perfectly and this bar gives much more leg room than a cusco. Notice there the mounting plates for the rollbar are...
Name:  IMG_0225.jpg
Views: 4011
Size:  90.5 KB
Name:  IMG_0229.jpg
Views: 3396
Size:  102.0 KB
Name:  IMG_0222.jpg
Views: 3429
Size:  119.2 KB
And the harnesses that aren't installed yet
Name:  IMG_0224.jpg
Views: 3418
Size:  112.2 KB
Name:  IMG_0223.jpg
Views: 3521
Size:  139.8 KB
Name:  IMG_0231.jpg
Views: 3334
Size:  51.6 KB
Name:  IMG_0230.jpg
Views: 3445
Size:  76.1 KB
Name:  IMG_0232.jpg
Views: 3416
Size:  85.4 KB
Name:  IMG_0234.jpg
Views: 3393
Size:  89.5 KB
Name:  IMG_0235.jpg
Views: 3436
Size:  99.6 KB
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 11:19 AM
  #10  
mikegarrison's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 3
From: Covington WA, USA
Default

Do I understand that you intend to anchor your harness to those rings I see there? IMO, you are being very foolish. That beam is not designed to take that load.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:39 AM.