Rotors breaking like dinner plates
Originally Posted by miamirice,Nov 29 2010, 11:24 AM
So yesterday after my 5th session at an HPDE I packed up and jumped in the car to leave. I rolled out of the garage And heard a muffled metallic shotgun like pop. I got out to check my car and both front rotors cracked from outside edge to the hat. Inside and outside surfaces. I will post photos if anybody can tell me how.
Centric rotors with about 6 hpde
Xp10 pads
No ducting
Always do cool down
I was checking temps yesterday, about 960 coming off track, 500-550 after cooldown. Has anybody had failures while on track?
Centric rotors with about 6 hpde
Xp10 pads
No ducting
Always do cool down
I was checking temps yesterday, about 960 coming off track, 500-550 after cooldown. Has anybody had failures while on track?

The way i see it, if u limit the amount of heat transferred to the rotor, the chance of cracking should be reduced greatly. I've never cracked rotors(except for having those tiny hairline ones) even when i ran my discs til they were pretty thin
Originally Posted by Antonov,Nov 30 2010, 02:43 PM
Napa rotors are $43 plus tax = roughly $47
Stoptech $250 plus tax = roughly $274
That means that if they outlast the OEM units by 6x, you are in the clear.
Stoptech $250 plus tax = roughly $274
That means that if they outlast the OEM units by 6x, you are in the clear.
A set of XP10 pads for stock S2k brakes is ~$190. XP10 pads for the Stoptech ST40 caliper used on the S2k BBK is ~$200, so it's a wash. How much life do guys get out of a set of pads on stock brakes? 5 days? If so, then the pad budget is double that of a BBK.
FWIW, I have no measureable rotor wear after the track day and a few thousand miles of street driving.
Originally Posted by spdracerut,Nov 30 2010, 03:43 PM
Rotor life is not the only variable. You should take into account pad wear also. After four track sessions at Buttonwillow in 85-100F heat, I got 0.8mm of pad wear on DS3000 pads (roughly equivalent to Carbotech XP8s I think), including bedding them in. Let's just say 1mm of wear, you have 10mm worth of usuable pad before needing to replace them. That's ~40 track sessions, or 10 track days.
A set of XP10 pads for stock S2k brakes is ~$190. XP10 pads for the Stoptech ST40 caliper used on the S2k BBK is ~$200, so it's a wash. How much life do guys get out of a set of pads on stock brakes? 5 days? If so, then the pad budget is double that of a BBK.
FWIW, I have no measureable rotor wear after the track day and a few thousand miles of street driving.
A set of XP10 pads for stock S2k brakes is ~$190. XP10 pads for the Stoptech ST40 caliper used on the S2k BBK is ~$200, so it's a wash. How much life do guys get out of a set of pads on stock brakes? 5 days? If so, then the pad budget is double that of a BBK.
FWIW, I have no measureable rotor wear after the track day and a few thousand miles of street driving.
I've had many, many S2000 front rotors crack on me. Never on track, always in the pits after the session.
A few times, however, I have not noticed the crack until I went out on track. That blows a whole session, usually, because by the time you come in and swap rotors, your group is done.
There is only one case I can think of where it is suspected that an S2000 rotor cracked on track. It was that fatality in NJ. In that case, they suspected that one of the rear rotors cracked (and then came apart). [See correction on the next page.]
I've never had a rear rotor crack, and I ran the same rear rotors literally for years. But after that incident I replaced them with new ones -- just in case.
A few times, however, I have not noticed the crack until I went out on track. That blows a whole session, usually, because by the time you come in and swap rotors, your group is done.
I've never had a rear rotor crack, and I ran the same rear rotors literally for years. But after that incident I replaced them with new ones -- just in case.
Originally Posted by nissanfanatic,Nov 30 2010, 04:03 PM
Pad life is a bitch on stock front brakes. For some reason, the rears last forever, and I have confirmed that they get way hotter than the fronts. I'm not sure on this one...
that's what motivated me to get in touch with RacingBrake to develop a rear vented disk. from the test results i have had so far, the rear brake temp has reduce by half of what the front temp is. and the hat never got over 200 degree, which is very good for the wheel bearings.
MPG will have pre-order group buy setup soon.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...&f=11&t=820202
My rotor broke on track at Laguna Seca...it made a big loud pop right by a corner worker station and then they immediately pulled me in for a sound violation...so this whole "won't break on track" business is not accurate at all.
Originally Posted by kinchu007,Nov 30 2010, 06:36 PM
My rotor broke on track at Laguna Seca...it made a big loud pop right by a corner worker station and then they immediately pulled me in for a sound violation...so this whole "won't break on track" business is not accurate at all.
Originally Posted by kinchu007,Nov 30 2010, 08:36 PM
My rotor broke on track at Laguna Seca...it made a big loud pop right by a corner worker station and then they immediately pulled me in for a sound violation...so this whole "won't break on track" business is not accurate at all.






