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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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I was just up at Roebling Road in Savannah, GA and used their scale to measure corner weights for my car. The car is stock with the tool kit removed, but not the spare tire and a nearly full tank of gas. The other items that may matter include a Da'Lan hitch mounted on the back, a Sparco Roadster seat mounted in the driver position, and two small amps in the area above the gas tank.

Car only, total weight 2830 lbs:
699 685
734 712

Me sitting in the car, total weight 3013 lbs:
739 707
812 758

I know that this topic has been brought up before, but my searches were not productive.
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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Your car was about 100 lbs heavier in the rear than mine. The difference is due to the hitch, the gas, the amp, and the spare tire.
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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My car:

LF - 717lbs RF - 712lbs
LR - 746lbs RR - 716lbs

A total of 2890lbs including driver. I weigh about 145, so it's 2745 on it's own. Gas tank was a little below half full.
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Wow. CoralDoc you beat me to it! I, too was at Roebling this weekend and weighed my S2000.

My car had about 1/2 tank of fuel, and was completely empty. No spare, tools or driver.

LF 710 RF 660
LR 674 RR 683

Total weight - 2727 lbs

Although the Front Rear measurments indicate roughly a 50/50 balance, I was a bit surprised by the variation in the front wheels. 50 lbs seems to be a pretty big variance side to side.
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Andrew
[B]Wow. CoralDoc you beat me to it! I, too was at Roebling this weekend and weighed my S2000.
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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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now I know you guys disconnected your swaybars when you made these measurements... right?

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Old Jan 28, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by j2k
[B]now I know you guys disconnected your swaybars when you made these measurements... right?
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 12:02 AM
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The swaybars are almost guaranteed to be applying some kind of load on the suspension, and this is going to throw off the corner weights. This is going to be true even if the car is perfectly leveled. This is because the swaybars are not likely to be perfectly straight and also because even if they were, variations in load distribution (actual corner weights) are going to vary the ride height at each corner and thus, cause the swaybars to come into effect.

Its hard to say exactly how much of an effect this is all going to have though... could be not that much, or it could be a significant amount. Its a whole other variable that affects, and is affected by, all the other variables.

So if you're trying to accurately corner weight a car, you *must* unhook the swaybars. Then, if you're really hardcore , once you get the car on a level surface, you use your adjustable endlinks to zero the preload from the swaybars.

Now, the total weight you get from those scales are still going to be valid, as are the front and rear totals. It should just be the left to right (and therefore also the cross) values that lose their accuracy.

-jason keeney
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 03:39 AM
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Thanks Jason, that's good insight I was unaware of.

I was going to have mine weighed shortly, it's too bad there are no aftermarket adjustable endlinks available. At least I don't think there are.
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Old Jan 29, 2002 | 03:46 AM
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It seems to me that the sway bars will have no affect on the accuracy of the scales. You can have any kind of crazy load transfer mechanism you want on the suspension, but when at rest the scales will tell you exactly how much weight is on each wheel.
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