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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Unhappy S2k Help .... Track / Weekend Setup

Hey guys, I have run Evos for years, but after selling my Evo, and saving some $$$ for while, I am ready to start another track car. I looked at M3's, Vettes, and Mustangs, but I really wanted to do something different, a light-(er) weight car, which I could track over the weekend and then drive home on Sunday.

I have found a few s2k's for sale, which met my criteria. High miles, but clean. Are there any years I should stay away from, or which are more 'trackable' than other years?

How are these motors, especially with high miles. My plan is the following....pick up a 00,01,02 s2k, clean up the car, replace the suspension with coil-overs (recommendatsions please) and upgrade bushings, swaybars, and chassis braces. I also want to look at brakes, which I hope not to have to do until after I start adding HP. Later, I will do a rebuild on the motor, and maybe add boost, but right now I just want something I can track, and sort out the chassis.

Overall, the car will need to be able to handle a good R type tyre, so I don't want to go too soft onthe setup, but I don't want a truck configuration either.

Can you guys please make some recommendations, so I can proceed in the right direction.

Any input would be appreciated.

For reference to my driving style, follow the following link. This was the last TT event at Road Atlanta I did in my car. I drove the car to the event, ran in TTB (1:38's on Saturday, and 1:43's (low-boost)) on Sunday. For those famaliar with Evo modders, I had a stage 3 AMS, with LOTS of suspension mods. However the brakes failed on Saturday, which was next on my list to replace, however, sold the car before than happened.

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Thanks to all for the input.....STF
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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[QUOTE=Stop&TurnFreak,Feb 3 2007, 04:13 PM] How are these motors, especially with high miles. My plan is the following....pick up a 00,01,02 s2k, clean up the car, replace the suspension with coil-overs (recommendatsions please) and upgrade bushings, swaybars, and chassis braces.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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I agree, I will track the car through the modifications, starting at stock. I will, however, upgrade to Motul and better pads immediatly. At my last event at Road A, I boiled Motul twice .... I may have been pushing a bit too hard.

My only concern with staying stock will be the setup is too soft for good tires (slick/R compound), and considering the cars I am looking at are high mileage, I will have to replace some components anyway. Also, I love to play with cornerweights, fast and slow bump, etc., so having coil-overs, long-term, is a must.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stop&TurnFreak,Feb 3 2007, 05:26 PM
My only concern with staying stock will be the setup is too soft for good tires (slick/R compound), and considering the cars I am looking at are high mileage, I will have to replace some components anyway. Also, I love to play with cornerweights, fast and slow bump, etc., so having coil-overs, long-term, is a must.
OK, in that case I do recommend that you change out the suspension reletively soon after you buy the car. It's certainly not necessary, but if that's what you like playing with then that's a different matter.

There are quite a few posts on this subject already in this forum. Mostly the choice comes down to how much you want to spend. At the lower cost, streetable end, KW Variant 3s are quite popular.

I ran the car for more than a year with RA1s and the stock suspension. There is a lot of body roll, but not to a dangerous degree. If you are used to very high spring rates, though, the combination might bother you.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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My Evo had 650lb springs . Plus, I had very stiff sways... I am not used to any roll at this point, but when I first got the Evo, you would dmn near get sea-sick driving it on a road course from all the rolls.
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Originally Posted by Stop&TurnFreak,Feb 3 2007, 06:27 PM
My Evo had 650lb springs
Yeah, but the key is the wheel rate not the spring rate. Do you know how the Evo and the S2000 compare for mechanical advantage of the suspension? I don't.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Um, NO clue. I just ran what felt 'right'.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Feb 3 2007, 07:07 PM
Yeah, but the key is the wheel rate not the spring rate. Do you know how the Evo and the S2000 compare for mechanical advantage of the suspension? I don't.
Mike,
could you elaborate more about this?

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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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one thing i think is lacking on the car stock is adequate grip... cars got a lot more to give than what the stock tire sizes can support... meaning wider wheels to accomodate wider tires...

id add R-tires, pads, and fluid first...

and coilovers (as necessary), rear anti-bumpsteer toe control arm can help on bumpy tracks... and a rollbar... and a wing...
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BKL,Feb 4 2007, 12:04 AM
Mike,
could you elaborate more about this?

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Not really. The wheel rate is what the car sees and responds to. The spring rate works with the suspension geometry to create the wheel rate. Comparing spring rates of cars with different suspension geometries is not nearly as useful as comparing wheel rates of cars.
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