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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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hey guys, i got a quick question. i track my car about once a month, maybe less, but nothing serious, always casual track days. ive got an ap1 and with the way i drive, i find myself kicking out the rear more often than i'd like. ive read the other posts on here about the same thing and ive come to the conclusion that softening my rear suspension would be the most viable solution right now. wheels are stock ap1s, 225s in the rear. i wont be getting a different wheel setup until a few months (and a couple track days) later so for the next few sessions i was wondering if it'd be a good idea to switch my front and rear espelir springs?

i have espelirs with the stock shocks right now, the espelirs are 314 front, 392 rear, or 5.3kg/mm front, 7.0 kg/mm rear and ive got koni yellows sitting in my garage.

so, knowing this, here's my question in a nutshell:
before i put the springs on the konis, would i get a bit less oversteer if i softened the damping in the rear or should i just switch the front and rear springs?

with what limited knowledge i have, i dont think softening the damping would have as much of an effect on oversteer as switching the springs altogether...

thanks ahead of time and please excuse my nubiness
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Dampening will only effect your transitions. The Koni yellows will also only allow you to adjust slow rebound. Therefore, basically all you can control with them is your front to rear balance at turn in and track out. It will help, but it won't be enough to fully correct the problem or combat inside rear wheel lift if you do get better tires.

For more rear grip at every point of the corner, put the stiffer springs in the front.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Actually the rebound adjustment does continue to affect throughout high speed as well - the slopes continue to diverge with speed, it's on the 2 ways' compression circuit they are more isolated at low speed/high speed interface. What would be super cool is to be able to affect low and high speed independently but for rebound it is incredibly easy to get oneself terribly caught up in chasing the proper high speed setting. Also damping is the correct term. Dampening is what happens to your pants if you get it horrably wrong.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Ha ha... Dampening... He could go with a massive FSB too, right?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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BTW, FormulaRedLine, you the guy that won the NASA Champs the first year over the BMW 46s? If so, that was some nice driving guy!
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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sweet, thanks for the responses. so as of now, im switching the springs until further proven otherwise. and i'll make sure to say damping from now on .
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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[QUOTE=DER MotorSports,Mar 25 2009, 04:48 PM]BTW, FormulaRedLine, you the guy that won the NASA Champs the first year over the BMW 46s?
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DER MotorSports,Mar 25 2009, 10:58 AM
Dampening is what happens to your pants if you get it horrably wrong.
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