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Old May 19, 2011 | 07:11 AM
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I have a bone stock '00 and although I usually run a go kart at events, I sometimes run my S2000. I have Bridgestone RE050's on the car.

A few years ago, I was pretty competitive with the S2000. I'd won both class and even ftd a few times. Now I can't seem to do better than mid-pack or lower in stock class. Although driver skill is probably part of the problem, I'm really wondering if the car is just not as competitive as it used to be. I know I could do the r-compounds, sway bar and alignment mods and improve a lot, but I just was wondering what others thought about running stock in the S and how they are doing?
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Old May 19, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by REVS29K
I have a bone stock '00 and although I usually run a go kart at events, I sometimes run my S2000. I have Bridgestone RE050's on the car.

A few years ago, I was pretty competitive with the S2000. I'd won both class and even ftd a few times. Now I can't seem to do better than mid-pack or lower in stock class. Although driver skill is probably part of the problem, I'm really wondering if the car is just not as competitive as it used to be. I know I could do the r-compounds, sway bar and alignment mods and improve a lot, but I just was wondering what others thought about running stock in the S and how they are doing?
What is the prep level of the cars that are beating you? In my region a stock car on street tries would be lucky to finish 50th on raw time.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by REVS29K' timestamp='1305817919' post='20592355
I have a bone stock '00 and although I usually run a go kart at events, I sometimes run my S2000. I have Bridgestone RE050's on the car.

A few years ago, I was pretty competitive with the S2000. I'd won both class and even ftd a few times. Now I can't seem to do better than mid-pack or lower in stock class. Although driver skill is probably part of the problem, I'm really wondering if the car is just not as competitive as it used to be. I know I could do the r-compounds, sway bar and alignment mods and improve a lot, but I just was wondering what others thought about running stock in the S and how they are doing?
What is the prep level of the cars that are beating you? In my region a stock car on street tries would be lucky to finish 50th on raw time.
We used to have a "Sticky Stock" class for those on r compounds in our club. It's been changed this year and this is the first event I've attended, so I'm not sure if others in my class had race tires or not. In raw time, I ended up about 31 out of 54.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by REVS29K
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I have a bone stock '00 and although I usually run a go kart at events, I sometimes run my S2000. I have Bridgestone RE050's on the car.

A few years ago, I was pretty competitive with the S2000. I'd won both class and even ftd a few times. Now I can't seem to do better than mid-pack or lower in stock class. Although driver skill is probably part of the problem, I'm really wondering if the car is just not as competitive as it used to be. I know I could do the r-compounds, sway bar and alignment mods and improve a lot, but I just was wondering what others thought about running stock in the S and how they are doing?
What is the prep level of the cars that are beating you? In my region a stock car on street tries would be lucky to finish 50th on raw time.
We used to have a "Sticky Stock" class for those on r compounds in our club. It's been changed this year and this is the first event I've attended, so I'm not sure if others in my class had race tires or not. In raw time, I ended up about 31 out of 54.
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I would investigate what tires the cars above you were using. R-comps are worth 2+ seconds on an autocross course. I have a few Tour and Divisional trophies with my S on R-comps, but have only pulled off 1 FTD in 7 years of autocrossing the S. (BTW, check out my for sale thread in my signature if you want to move up to R-comps.)
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Old May 19, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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Other drivers improving and tire technology improving. RE050s are mediocre at best. Posting a link to results would help. In some regions, competition is so fierce that being one second off the pace (due to tires) can bump you 15+ spots.

Also, if you were setting FTD on RE050s previously it probably was lack of competition more than anything else.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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I just looked up the results from our last local event. The fastest stock class car on street tires finished 32nd.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Conedodger
I just looked up the results from our last local event. The fastest stock class car on street tires finished 32nd.
This was my class at the autox. I had ftd when I was running S03's, but also it was a small field.

I was just curious what others running in this class are doing. I absolutely agree that changing to R-compounds would make a big difference. Right now my investment is in the kart and I am yet to do anything more to the S.

By the way, if you have an alignment done as described in the faq's, and you also drive the car on the street, what do you do between events? Do you align to street specs or leave it on autocross specs? Tire wear?

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2 m CS 291 Dan F 1999 Mazda Miata Green 70.290 68.142 69.130+1 56.762
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5 m ES 11 David P 1991 Toyota MR2 Red 89.800+OFF 73.418 70.942 58.355
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6 m BS 169 Greg V 2000 Honda S2000 Silver 77.063 73.065+1 72.543 59.356
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7 m BS 118 Terrence M 2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Orange 74.200+1 71.028+1 72.789+OFF 61.270
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8 m CS 0 John C 1999 Mazda Miata Blue 82.740+OFF 89.330 79.767 66.425
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9 m BS 62 Paul B 2011 Ford Shelby GT-500 BLK 89.642+1 80.500 80.101 66.502
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Old May 20, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by REVS29K
By the way, if you have an alignment done as described in the faq's, and you also drive the car on the street, what do you do between events? Do you align to street specs or leave it on autocross specs? Tire wear?
Tire wear isn't too bad. The inside edge on your fronts will wear a fair bit, but I go through 2 sets of rears for every set of fronts so when I put the new rears on I have the fronts flipped.
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