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Old 04-10-2010, 03:52 PM
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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone here is using the wilwood brake kit they are offering themselves. I have done lots of searches it appears most people are using a kit that was done by Sherwin many years ago. I was curious if anyone here is using the kit that Wilwood offers themselves


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I'm particularly interested in these kit due to its lower profile compared to most big brake kits for wheel and caliper clearance.
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What are you trying to accomplish by buying a BBK? Whats wrong with the oem system?

First thing I'd look at are the piston sizes, then compute the overall piston area and compare that to the OEM piston. I wouldn't buy anything far off from OEM.
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the main problem with the other Wilwood kit was that the pad area is significantly less than the OEM pads. I would look into how large the pads for these calipers are.
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I'll tell you what I accomplished with the previous kit (from Partshelper, if that is the 'Sherwin kit').

- quick pad changes as they're the simple cotter-pin style

- MUCH cheaper pads. For same pad compound (let's take Hawk HT-10's, the Wilwoods were 1/3 the price for basically the same swept area/pad life). The kit paid for itself in my first HPDE year of using it.

- Much bigger selection of pad compounds. Right now I'm a fan of the Wilwood Poly A and B depending on track, but there's so much more available to try (and I have 2 friends with Miatas with the same setup, so we share and economize on spares and backups).

- I found a much cheaper supplier of blanks; Behrents. I can by rotor surface blanks for less than $40 shipped, and they have lasted as well as any other I've seen. I don't care for the hassle of 2-piece rotors, but at that price I bought a spare hat and keep one ready for a quick change in case of a crack.

The old kit is the Dynalite II caliper, which is okay, not great. The braking seems to me exactly the same (which is plenty good enough in my opinion) , though the bleeders suck, leak and make you end up wanting to over-torque them and break them. Use some Teflon tape to seal the threads and it's all okay.

What I really want now is to have the exact same calipers at all 4 corners (I don't care about the parking brake), as I go through pads front to rear at at least a 3-1 ratio. More so when it's a hard on the brakes circuit where performance seriously suffers after the pads wear beyond 50% friction material.

So what I'd love to do is come off a track day or 1/2 day, and swap my front pads to the rear and put fresh fronts on. Additionally, I'd only have to buy 1 size pad in bulk. I do recognize that I'd have to put a bias adjustment system in place, and it could mess with the ABS.

What I would like is a setup with
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To answer the questions. Who has bigger sweep area...

Honda S2000 front D829 brake pad size.



Wilwood SuperLite 6R 6 piston caliper uses 7461



Honda S2000 OEM pad area ~ 11 inches squared
Wilwood 6 piston pad area ~ 11.5 inches squared

I say approximate because I just took length x width.

So the Wilwoods have better heat sink capacity. Bigger area. Thicker pad.

If the intent of your question was that bigger pad area = more grip. That is wrong. Force of friction is not dependent on surface area. Force_friction = coefficient of friction kinetic * Normal force applied.

Area is independent of force of friction. Because Normal force is calculated by the Normal force per area multiplied by the area.

I have an eye on this brake kit because of it's low profile and availability of parts.
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My intent was not about more area=more grip, just that it seemed that the Dynalite II pads were experiencing a much shorter pad life than those being used on OEM calipers.
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I'm not going to disagree with you on the dynalites. This kit uses the narrow billet slr 6 piston. Which is a completely different caliper than dynalites or even the dynapros.
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I have the 13" Wilwood kit. The car stops...well. I love the ease of the pad changes and the weight savings over stock was startling. I'm pretty pleased overall.
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Hi courage007,

do you have the exact kit that was posted in the initial post or do you have an older kit that was put together by brakezone?


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