01' AP1 vs 05' & 06'STI's
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Originally Posted by Ztopgun28,Jun 16 2006, 08:49 AM
AP1 are '00-03, AP2 are '04-06
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for the record, s2000's cost more than STi's 
STI's are based off of a sedan, as opposed to a purebred sports car.
1-4th gear is INSANELY agressively geared... the STI is meant for a track, even more so than the s2000.
as with AP2s, they only have a 2000 rpm range of real power, but with a lot less rpm, and a lot more torque.
STI gearing is FAR inferior to that of the s2000 at 100+ mph.
s2000's have a higher top speed (~160 AP1 vs ~154 [improved] 2006) than the STI, when the STI is putting down ~240awhp vs ~205rwhp. That should tell you that the STI's aerodynamics are worse (obvious.... functional HUGE rear spoiler)
this is just the view of someone who drives both cars.
STI's are based off of a sedan, as opposed to a purebred sports car.
1-4th gear is INSANELY agressively geared... the STI is meant for a track, even more so than the s2000.
as with AP2s, they only have a 2000 rpm range of real power, but with a lot less rpm, and a lot more torque.
STI gearing is FAR inferior to that of the s2000 at 100+ mph.
s2000's have a higher top speed (~160 AP1 vs ~154 [improved] 2006) than the STI, when the STI is putting down ~240awhp vs ~205rwhp. That should tell you that the STI's aerodynamics are worse (obvious.... functional HUGE rear spoiler)
this is just the view of someone who drives both cars.
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Originally Posted by psychoazn,Jun 16 2006, 10:54 PM
for the record, s2000's cost more than STi's
STI's are based off of a sedan, as opposed to a purebred sports car.
1-4th gear is INSANELY agressively geared... the STI is meant for a track, even more so than the s2000.
as with AP2s, they only have a 2000 rpm range of real power, but with a lot less rpm, and a lot more torque.
STI gearing is FAR inferior to that of the s2000 at 100+ mph.
s2000's have a higher top speed (~160 AP1 vs ~154 [improved] 2006) than the STI, when the STI is putting down ~240awhp vs ~205rwhp. That should tell you that the STI's aerodynamics are worse (obvious.... functional HUGE rear spoiler)
this is just the view of someone who drives both cars.
STI's are based off of a sedan, as opposed to a purebred sports car.
1-4th gear is INSANELY agressively geared... the STI is meant for a track, even more so than the s2000.
as with AP2s, they only have a 2000 rpm range of real power, but with a lot less rpm, and a lot more torque.
STI gearing is FAR inferior to that of the s2000 at 100+ mph.
s2000's have a higher top speed (~160 AP1 vs ~154 [improved] 2006) than the STI, when the STI is putting down ~240awhp vs ~205rwhp. That should tell you that the STI's aerodynamics are worse (obvious.... functional HUGE rear spoiler)
this is just the view of someone who drives both cars.
for the 1000th time.
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the STI is heavier, less aerodynamic, and is geared innappropriately for freeway pulls.
please explain to me why it should be faster.
the result has always been the same when I switch off cars.
the STI will pull early on, and the s2000 will catch up and pass in triple digits.
the STI has no chance if you roll over 85; the turbo lag alone puts it far enough behind that it'll never get even before starting to fall back.
*edit*
this is, assuming, that both cars are stock.
additional info: MY06 STI, MY05 AP2
please explain to me why it should be faster.
the result has always been the same when I switch off cars.
the STI will pull early on, and the s2000 will catch up and pass in triple digits.
the STI has no chance if you roll over 85; the turbo lag alone puts it far enough behind that it'll never get even before starting to fall back.
*edit*
this is, assuming, that both cars are stock.
additional info: MY06 STI, MY05 AP2
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Originally Posted by psychoazn,Jun 16 2006, 10:54 PM
for the record, s2000's cost more than STi's
STI's are based off of a sedan, as opposed to a purebred sports car.
1-4th gear is INSANELY agressively geared... the STI is meant for a track, even more so than the s2000.
as with AP2s, they only have a 2000 rpm range of real power, but with a lot less rpm, and a lot more torque.
STI gearing is FAR inferior to that of the s2000 at 100+ mph.
s2000's have a higher top speed (~160 AP1 vs ~154 [improved] 2006) than the STI, when the STI is putting down ~240awhp vs ~205rwhp. That should tell you that the STI's aerodynamics are worse (obvious.... functional HUGE rear spoiler)
this is just the view of someone who drives both cars.
STI's are based off of a sedan, as opposed to a purebred sports car.
1-4th gear is INSANELY agressively geared... the STI is meant for a track, even more so than the s2000.
as with AP2s, they only have a 2000 rpm range of real power, but with a lot less rpm, and a lot more torque.
STI gearing is FAR inferior to that of the s2000 at 100+ mph.
s2000's have a higher top speed (~160 AP1 vs ~154 [improved] 2006) than the STI, when the STI is putting down ~240awhp vs ~205rwhp. That should tell you that the STI's aerodynamics are worse (obvious.... functional HUGE rear spoiler)
this is just the view of someone who drives both cars.
I'd call the STi a purebread sports car. 04-05's didn't have a radio
There really isn't any fluff about it. What's wrong with sedans? How is there turbo lag that high up in the RPM range with not so huge a turbo? JW.
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there is a delay between squeezing the throttle and having full boost; youre not always gonna have full boost in all of the piping between the turbo and the engine.
the s2000 costs more, but not by much. At invoice, the s2000 was actually cheaper last time I checked.
Also, what I meant by purebreed sports car is that the STi is based off of a 'normal' compact size sedan, while the s2000 only has ONE trim (usually), which is targetted solely at the specific market of sports car buyers.
the s2000 costs more, but not by much. At invoice, the s2000 was actually cheaper last time I checked.
Also, what I meant by purebreed sports car is that the STi is based off of a 'normal' compact size sedan, while the s2000 only has ONE trim (usually), which is targetted solely at the specific market of sports car buyers.